back pay

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 01:32:12 AM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on January 08, 2014, 07:16:24 PM
This will be my last post on this subject because I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for my money. First off you state it's a one time thing and what happens when the money is gone. It already is and I didn't even get it yet. So apparently I personally need the money as much as you. Secondly, as I stated earlier I care about all members of this Local working or not. But as unfortunate as it is members who are out of work has nothing to do with our back pay. Third of all, again I'll say just because I'm down doesn't mean I'm "whiny". Lastly, Thank You Buzz for what you do on this site.

We all want to get our money for whatever reasons and/or various levels of necessity. And I did say that "whiny" may not apply to you, but ask Andy about the people who ask him about the money almost on a daily basis! In any case, we know we're at the mercy of the NLRB and have no choice but to be patient. I don't want to complain about it, but I can't help but notice that they didn't need to actually have the checks in hand to know their amounts. It seems to me to be a bit of grandstanding on their part as if they want the credit for getting us our money. Can't see any other reason why they have to physically send us the checks, adding more time to us actually getting them ... but there's not much we can do about it.

Cheers.

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 01:39:14 AM

Quote from: 1union on January 08, 2014, 07:45:34 PM
Whenever you don't agree with all the the bullshit you are whinning or whatever. It would be nice if we could respect each others opinion. I really what to no why are we continuing doing for a company that has lied to us told us he was so broke that he could no longer pay us but can go out buy new buses and old ones bid on more runs and yet guys cover work use cell phones and hang in the office.I really wish our union would send a rep down from the hall and clear some question s we have for them.I know they are busy but a announced visit would put a lot of things to rest. I want them to no the lack of coumunication is heartbreaking. I want to stand with them but can't understand all the confusion all the time.look I want to work for a company that respects its drivers and don't play games with my families income and coverage.Do things in seniority order (pic a run,pick yard,and a good working bus that I am not going to get a bullshit fine in)and I would go to bat for the company and get things back the way it used to be. Its not Blomberg fault that our owner sides with fat boy gat to and imposed a illegal contract.So I will whine piss n mome all I want till I get what's mine.

By the way, a common thread in many of your posts is about having a union rep come down. Just curious ... what do you consider Ernie to be? What questions do you have that he couldn't answer?

1union · January 09, 2014, 02:31:22 PM

I have no problem with Ernie but I want to see them and answer some guest ions in person so I can look him in the face and he can explain some things for us instead of waiting for the card table to make it.What's the problem he comes down unannounced and has time to do that.Also maybe you can answer my post is why do we continue to help scumbag. A&E drivers who are working here and are not part of 1181We should not deal with them at all.But I want to see my elected official to clear tjs air.Yard meeting 1 a month boost moral and clear up rumors. Take a pol and see if its just me but I think if you take do you will see that a lot of us think it would help.If not I will not bring it up again.You see I don't understand why we go the extra mile for a boss who tried to break the union steal money from us and continues to stick it to us every time they can.But that my opinion .rather die standing then survive on my knees!

PROUD MEMBER · January 09, 2014, 02:54:58 PM

1union
I agree with your last post 100% but with regards to a monthly yard meetings right now due to the weather I don't think that will happen. How many people are gonna stand in the cold for 45 minutes to an hour. What I would suggest to you and anyone who has questions is to go back to the yard after the morning run. I SURE ERNIE WILL ANSWER ANY & ALL QUESTIONS. AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER HE'LL GET ONE. One of your questions should be when the weather is appropriate "Can we have monthly yard meetings". Unfortunately as I stated above right now you're not gonna get people to stand in the cold.

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 03:08:38 PM

Quote from: 1union on January 09, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
But I want to see my elected official to clear tjs air.Yard meeting 1 a month boost moral and clear up rumors. Take a pol and see if its just me but I think if you take do you will see that a lot of us think it would help.

I'm not against that, but where would this meeting be held ... in the yard ... in the cold? If we rented a venue, who would pay for it? Either way, if they did it for us, would they not have to do it for EVERY property ... or are we special?

Quote from: 1union on January 09, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
A&E drivers who are working here and are not part of 1181We should not deal with them at all.

The DoE insisted that, for the time being, the drivers follow the work. (Ironic, isn't it?) There will be a master pick soon and many of the AE drivers who are here now no longer will be. If any come here permanently, they'll have to join 1181, as far as I understand.

Quote from: 1union on January 09, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
You see I don't understand why we go the extra mile for a boss who tried to break the union steal money from us and continues to stick it to us every time they can.But that my opinion .rather die standing then survive on my knees!

Let me ask you a question: This morning a bus was broken down in Richmondtown, kids on the bus. Another driver radioed that he would bring his bus to that driver. I headed to the location as well and got there literally 30 seconds before the bus that radioed and offered to take the kids and finish the run. Being the other bus pulled up right behind me we left it at that, not to confuse the arrangements made with Owen on the radio.

Now the question: Who would I and the other driver have been spiting and leaving out in below-freezing weather if we didn't go to help? Neil? Owen? Or a fellow driver and a bunch of kids on a broken-down bus ... with another 2 stops still waiting on corners for their bus to come? Were we wrong to respond? Would you have wanted us to help if it were you broken down?

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 03:14:08 PM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on January 09, 2014, 02:54:58 PM
What I would suggest to you and anyone who has questions is to go back to the yard after the morning run. I SURE ERNIE WILL ANSWER ANY & ALL QUESTIONS. AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER HE'LL GET ONE.

Perfect solution! It's that simple.

1union · January 09, 2014, 03:15:53 PM

I am willing to go out and find a place to have a meeting without management. A few yes back we had a meeting a Manresa council in oakaood.I am willing to find a place has long as they give me time. We need to grow some balls and stop management from picking us apart. We need to get our ducks in a row with union elections coming and we might to loose our shopstewart to retirement in march we need to stay together.I think if they don't want to attend we have one without them and they can find out how it went when the card game resumes in the morning.

1union · January 09, 2014, 03:39:56 PM

When it come s to the safety and well being of every child that comes first and always will .If you come to the meeting I will explain how we can make our point without jeopardising the safety of our children. See buzz you got it good new bus able to walk in and out of office get info from management and the union direect.we don't and all most of us want is respect,let's do things the union way I seniority order .If we keep going the way we are things will get worse ! Wake up 1181 we have a great chance to save our union jobs let's show unity and we are not going to let them pick us clean.Owners are going to organize again and try to break us again .let's not let that happen.I don't want to see pioneer go under but if he thinks he is going to keep screwing us and have management make us against each other it ain't happening!

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 04:15:18 PM

ANYBODY has the same access to information as I do. If they choose to wait for it to come to them, rather than seek it, that's entirely their call.

1union · January 09, 2014, 08:44:55 PM

look the purposes of the meeting is to show unity not to divide we need to stick together the upcoming elections and a new contract We need to show unity.

Buzz · January 09, 2014, 10:48:55 PM

Quote from: 1union on January 09, 2014, 08:44:55 PM
look the purposes of the meeting is to show unity not to divide we need to stick together the upcoming elections and a new contract We need to show unity.

Go for it ... if you find a place you can post it here.

Just_Right · January 13, 2014, 07:33:22 PM

There is no reason at all to rent a hall or have monthly meetings in the yard. The union holds monthly meetings ALREADY!Are we that pampered on Staten Island that we need the Union Reps to COME here? C'mon people stop acting like we DESERVE more than all the other 1181 workers.If anyone is that INTERESTED in having their voice heard then by all means GO to the meetings every month.

Beside the fact that there are a handful of people asking for this,I do not see anyone else showing up. There will be excuses,about why they can't make it,or make another day.So why keep pissing and moaning about something that ALREADY happens once a month.Just not convenient enough for you? Get in your car and go to the meeting.

I am here a long time.And there was never a need for this unity meeting .I went and still go to meetings if something is an issue with my job. Geesh,at what time and age do we grow up?

Buzz · January 13, 2014, 07:38:59 PM

Quote from: Just_Right on January 13, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
There is no reason at all to rent a hall or have monthly meetings in the yard. The union holds monthly meetings ALREADY!Are we that pampered on Staten Island that we need the Union Reps to COME here? C'mon people stop acting like we DESERVE more than all the other 1181 workers.If anyone is that INTERESTED in having their voice heard then by all means GO to the meetings every month.

Beside the fact that there are a handful of people asking for this,I do not see anyone else showing up. There will be excuses,about why they can't make it,or make another day.So why keep pissing and moaning about something that ALREADY happens once a month.Just not convenient enough for you? Get in your car and go to the meeting.

I am here a long time.And there was never a need for this unity meeting .I went and still go to meetings if something is an issue with my job. Geesh,at what time and age do we grow up?

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PROUD MEMBER · January 13, 2014, 08:20:53 PM

Buzz & Just Right
I agree with you to some extent but on the other hand the people who want MONTHLY YARD meetings as of two months ago do have a point. Pioneer employees only have a contract with Pioneer now. In the past 1181 had a contract with the coalition and it was hard enough then to get a question or two in. Do you really think at a Local 1181 meaning our reps are going to devote an hour or so just to Pioneer?

Just_Right · January 13, 2014, 10:17:42 PM

I guess for you and the others that have immediate questions that NEED answers,you won't know unless you go to the meetings and ask.If there are enough of you to warrant a meeting in the yard.Then apparently they are enough of you from Pioneer to warrant an hour of questions at a regular scheduled meeting.