Can N.Y.C. Schools Open on Time? De Blasio Is Under Pressure to Delay

Buzz · August 19, 2020, 08:04:13 PM

After watching the video, scroll down to see the UFT's School Safety Report. I don't believe the city has the money to implement many of these demands.

And I still don't understand how he thinks schools are safe for opening ... AND THEY MAY BE ... but at the same time doesn't think it's safe to open gyms, indoor dining, and malls. He's killing those businesses. They should sue the city.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/teachers-union-sending-members-into-schools-to-check-safety-reopening-plans

Buzz · August 19, 2020, 08:10:15 PM

Quote from: WigWag16 on August 19, 2020, 07:50:24 PM

Listen if they want to delay the opening fine....THEN TAKE CARE OF THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS! Everyone working or involved some shape of form with the DOE, BOE is taken care of but us. Pay us our salary and benefits. We can't live off unemployment

Agreed ... but we know damn well that the city doesn't give a shit about our financial or physical well-being. Any safety protocols that will be put in place for buses will be what they think is enough to satisfy parents that their kids are safe and any benefit to us will only be what happens to be incidental to that.

Hammer2161 · August 19, 2020, 08:10:43 PM

Buzz you are 1000 percent correct this is a giant cluster fuck. What did they do with the money given to them through the Cares Act or is it just not being funneled down to the schools. This is just more political bullshit that is designed to screw over the every day working class citizen. The demands are so high and so stringent that even if we had the money we just don't have the time to get it all done. We as bus drivers will be ready to the best of our ability but unfortunately the damn school system won't be.

Buzz · August 19, 2020, 08:11:57 PM

Quote from: Hammer2161 on August 19, 2020, 06:57:06 PM
Looks good but is it just a publicity stunt put out there by Dumblasio ? Listen I want to get back to work as much as the rest of us do but unfortunately we know all to well we can not trust either the Mayor or the BOE. I truly can not phantom what the hell they have been doing for the past 5 months. It's a total and utter disgrace.

You mean you don't trust our mayor?

Hammer2161 · August 19, 2020, 08:14:09 PM

About as far as I can throw a SCHOOL BUS !!!!

yabba · August 19, 2020, 08:52:31 PM

Quote from: Hammer2161 on August 19, 2020, 08:10:43 PM
Buzz you are 1000 percent correct this is a giant cluster fuck. What did they do with the money given to them through the Cares Act or is it just not being funneled down to the schools. This is just more political bullshit that is designed to screw over the every day working class citizen. The demands are so high and so stringent that even if we had the money we just don't have the time to get it all done. We as bus drivers will be ready to the best of our ability but unfortunately the damn school system won't be.

the cares act seemed to be a joke and money not used where it was supposed to go...shocker... we know the bus companies in NYC are being paid for under their contract at a reduced amount,which we got screwed and were easily laid off and benefits taken away...a lot of states been paying their school bus drivers,i did read i think seattle has finally laid off their school bus drivers recently... i wish we could have had a fight to try and at least keep our benefits...

Hammer2161 · August 19, 2020, 10:39:28 PM

Not exactly sure I would say The Cares Act was a joke it for Certain Kept Most of Us Afloat with the additional 600 to our unemployment. I will agree it was poorly managed and it's pretty evident that a lot of the funds are still left unused. The mis appropriation of funds and the inability to get anything done with money allocated well that's a whole different story. The bureaucratic bullshit is truly unbelievable, why can't everyone just agree to do what's best for us as a country and drop all political nonsense that seems to be making a bad situation worse. And now on top of that if the UFT and The Principals union get their way school will not start up. I read earlier that more than 1 out of every 10 principals is looking to submit medical documentation preventing them from returning to the schools but they want to continue to do it remotely. Must be nice to get paid in full including benefits and be able to stay home and do almost nothing.

yabba · August 19, 2020, 10:57:34 PM

Quote from: Hammer2161 on August 19, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
Not exactly sure I would say The Cares Act was a joke it for Certain Kept Most of Us Afloat with the additional 600 to our unemployment. I will agree it was poorly managed and it's pretty evident that a lot of the funds are still left unused. The mis appropriation of funds and the inability to get anything done with money allocated well that's a whole different story. The bureaucratic bullshit is truly unbelievable, why can't everyone just agree to do what's best for us as a country and drop all political nonsense that seems to be making a bad situation worse. And now on top of that if the UFT and The Principals union get their way school will not start up. I read earlier that more than 1 out of every 10 principals is looking to submit medical documentation preventing them from returning to the schools but they want to continue to do it remotely. Must be nice to get paid in full including benefits and be able to stay home and do almost nothing.

very true the 600. was good but there was money allocated for school bus transportation thoughout the country...

Hammer2161 · August 20, 2020, 12:03:17 AM

There was money allocated for lots of stuff that was either never done or the money got diverted elsewhere. Our great Mayor saw our bus money as a means to offset a BOE deficiency as I recall. A way to offset an over 500 million dollar deficit. But even with doing that he still doesn't have the school system ready to open. I am not sure how or why money ear marked to keep intricate parts of the largest school system in the country afloat can be diverted so easily but yet it happened. Dumblasio continues to make a mockery out of our great city with every move he makes. He is a disgrace but unfortunately we are stuck with him for another 16 months. They can't go by fast enough.

PROUD MEMBER · August 20, 2020, 12:45:46 AM

Summer camps (indoor & outdoor) have been open throughout the city for 2 months. Some of these children are being transported to and from camp on school buses. Also these camps go on day trips where all the children from the camp are on the buses. I've literally seen (numerous times throughout the summer) Jewish camps with 5, 6 or 7 bus loads of children (up to 50 kids per bus) on the streets of Staten Island. And I'm sure the the other boroughs are just as crowded if not more. It makes no sense that the Mayor allowed this all summer yet two months later with the cases down and obviously more knowledge of the virus and how to contain it that he talks about getting rid of school busing because it's not safe. My opinion on this is because the summer camps are paid directly by the parents to whoever runs the camp and school busing is part of the NYC budget. I don't care what we've been told in the past about this Mayor and this virus. It's all about the money.

wheresmymoney! · August 20, 2020, 12:56:03 AM

I wonder if they'd consider having everyone tested.

OMG · August 20, 2020, 01:20:33 AM

I don't want to sound out of line, or against the union in anyway. But 1181 could dip a little into the strike fund and toss everybody a few hundred dollars, especially with a little help from the international. The strike fund isn't solely used during a strike, it's also used for organizing and other things. They also use it to pay members who assisted in organizing companies. I know a lot of matrons and drivers who have gone weeks without a dime expecting to feed their families, And I know they read this website. I mean come on, throw us a bone every once in a while we're dying here! I know there's a lot of money in that strike fund, it hasn't been used for seven years. These people are still getting the six-figure salary's and we are living on a few hundred dollars a week.

wheresmymoney! · August 20, 2020, 01:41:43 AM

AMEN!

LMR · August 20, 2020, 01:43:03 AM

Everything everyone on this site posts is correct in individual arguments,but the problem is that has nothing to do with opening schools in September.From the top down all these bleeding heart liberals do not want Trump re-elected.Gov.Cuomo and Mayor DiBozo are wigged out socialist/communists.The NEA (National Education Asscociation),a far left money machine for the Dems,The teachers union are all in for removing Trump from office.November 4th this all goes away.

WigWag16 · August 20, 2020, 02:22:28 AM

Quote from: LMR on August 20, 2020, 01:43:03 AM
Everything everyone on this site posts is correct in individual arguments,but the problem is that has nothing to do with opening schools in September.From the top down all these bleeding heart liberals do not want Trump re-elected.Gov.Cuomo and Mayor DiBozo are wigged out socialist/communists.The NEA (National Education Asscociation),a far left money machine for the Dems,The teachers union are all in for removing Trump from office.November 4th this all goes away.

I just hate how everyone in the school system is being taken care of pay and benefit wise from
Nurses, janitors, lunch lady's, teachers, principals and we are left with scratch and deal with unemployment nonsense. We should be taken care of as well. If we go back on 9-10 and the teachers strike, we should be get paid from our company due to the fact we have a contract and our job is being affected by their walkout/strike