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PROUD MEMBER · August 20, 2020, 02:32:15 AM

Are you sure strike fund money can be used for other things?

wheresmymoney! · August 20, 2020, 02:51:38 AM

Well weve been getting the shaft since may 1st noone is honoring anything in our contract now without the stimulus I'm screwed we really got thrown under the bus pardon the play on words!

Buzz · August 20, 2020, 03:28:49 AM

Quote from: OMG on August 20, 2020, 01:20:33 AM
I don't want to sound out of line, or against the union in anyway. But 1181 could dip a little into the strike fund and toss everybody a few hundred dollars, especially with a little help from the international. The strike fund isn't solely used during a strike, it's also used for organizing and other things. They also use it to pay members who assisted in organizing companies. I know a lot of matrons and drivers who have gone weeks without a dime expecting to feed their families, And I know they read this website. I mean come on, throw us a bone every once in a while we're dying here! I know there's a lot of money in that strike fund, it hasn't been used for seven years. These people are still getting the six-figure salary's and we are living on a few hundred dollars a week.

Actually, Ernie tried to do this a couple of months ago, to try to keep our benefits going. He was told there are legal barriers that prevent the fund from being used for anything other than intended. (And yes, organizing is one of the things for which it was intended.) He tried.

Buzz · August 20, 2020, 03:29:18 AM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on August 20, 2020, 02:32:15 AM
Are you sure strike fund money can be used for other things?

No, they cannot.

OMG · August 20, 2020, 05:01:05 AM

Many rules have been broken or over looked for emergency purposes since the pandemic, I.E., no pay, no opt-out, no accrual pay, etc. Michael's members are struggling and starving! Real leaders make tough decisions during hard times and it's not a time to be a damned coward, help your fucking members who pay your damn salary. Send out the checks so maybe we can order pizza while he eats steak. Don't fall for the bullshit, it can be done.

PROUD MEMBER · August 20, 2020, 12:33:36 PM

OMG does have a valid point. During this unprecedented pandemic especially for our nation many rules have be broken or changed throughout the country including government and private sectors. Two things that have changed is the extra 13 weeks unemployment and the DOE braking their contracts with the bus companies. Having said that even if the union could go into the strike fund I really don't know if the amount of money for each member would make a difference so it might be better off leaving it there for the future.

yabba · August 20, 2020, 01:15:17 PM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on August 20, 2020, 12:33:36 PM
OMG does have a valid point. During this unprecedented pandemic especially for our nation many rules have be broken or changed throughout the country including government and private sectors. Two things that have changed is the extra 13 weeks unemployment and the DOE braking their contracts with the bus companies. Having said that even if the union could go into the strike fund I really don't know if the amount of money for each member would make a difference so it might be better off leaving it there for the future.

The DOE did not break contract with companies. They just talking over a new payment ... we were just the weakest link ( drivers and escorts).

PROUD MEMBER · August 20, 2020, 02:46:08 PM

Yabba obviously it doesn't make a difference how we want to categorize what the DOE did with the contractors. In my opinion they definitely broke their contract they stopped paying the contractors in which the contractors stop paying us. They may be looking at a negotiating now on paying the contractors something toward the months that they already didn't pay but regardless they stop paying the contractors which means they broke the contract.

yabba · August 20, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

It just suxs. We have no fight anymore. We have Ernie and that's it. Strength starts from the top. International does nothing. Shows no support. Someone stated a few weeks back.

PROUD MEMBER · August 20, 2020, 03:12:59 PM

I don't know if it's true or not that the international isn't showing any support but I do know that I asked and the international is still taking their monthly contributions from 1181 which I believe is in Excess of $100,000 per month! Which in my belief they should have waived since we first got laid off not just from a local but any local that is not working!

yabba · August 20, 2020, 04:56:09 PM

I'm not saying you wrong In what you were told. But I. cant possibly see our local having that much money to pay that at this point.

OMG · August 20, 2020, 08:26:09 PM

The school buses aren't the only industry contributing dues to 1181, there are other companies and transit also. But the school buses are pretty much their main source of revenue. Once again, I don't wanna sound like I'm anti-union in anyway, But Michael is sitting on a slush fund of cash that can be handed out to the members has a little bit of help. I don't want to hear about rules, fuck the rules! This is an emergency and his people who put money in his pocket every week are in trouble. I've been hearing nightmare stories from matrons especially on the brink of collapse,

yabba · August 20, 2020, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: OMG on August 20, 2020, 08:26:09 PM
The school buses aren't the only industry contributing dues to 1181, there are other companies and transit also. But the school buses are pretty much their main source of revenue. Once again, I don't wanna sound like I'm anti-union in anyway, But Michael is sitting on a slush fund of cash that can be handed out to the members has a little bit of help. I don't want to hear about rules, fuck the rules! This is an emergency and his people who put money in his pocket every week are in trouble. I've been hearing nightmare stories from matrons especially on the brink of collapse,

i dont think that slush fund is as big as we may think..

OMG · August 20, 2020, 09:37:32 PM

On the contrary, I think there's more in there than you think. Regardless it belongs to the members, it's probably enough to throw each member a few hundred dollars or more.

Hammer2161 · August 20, 2020, 09:40:39 PM

Well after attending the refresher course this morning the light seems very dim at the end of the tunnel. As Owen so purposely put it neither The Mayors Office or The BOE has reached out to either Pioneer or 1181 and simply put we are running out of time. They have no idea what the safety protocols would be on the buses nor any clue what would be required of the drivers simply because they have yet to receive any guidance. The UFT is sitting back like fat cats saying they won't go back unless everything is exactly as they want it. Therefore complicating the situation even more. Dumblasio is going to wait until the end of the month to make a final decision and in the mean time we are just in limbo. This is a total farce and just a delay tactic until he is ready to face the music for all his mistakes in handling this situation. I truly don't know where we go from here but it doesn't look good.