Can N.Y.C. Schools Open on Time? De Blasio Is Under Pressure to Delay

Started by WigWag, August 18, 2020, 09:09:02 PM

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WigWag16

Quote from: Hammer2161 on August 20, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
Well after attending the refresher course this morning the light seems very dim at the end of the tunnel. As Owen so purposely put it neither The Mayors Office or The BOE has reached out to either Pioneer or 1181 and simply put we are running out of time. They have no idea what the safety protocols would be on the buses nor any clue what would be required of the drivers simply because they have yet to receive any guidance. The UFT is sitting back like fat cats saying they won't go back unless everything is exactly as they want it. Therefore complicating the situation even more. Dumblasio is going to wait until the end of the month to make a final decision and in the mean time we are just in limbo. This is a total farce and just a delay tactic until he is ready to face the music for all his mistakes in handling this situation. I truly don't know where we go from here but it doesn't look good.

Again everyone in the school industry will be taken care of and we won't....that's nice just leave us with no benefits and a crappy unemployment system that pays ya crap. We should be getting our pay and benefits just like everyone else. This isn't our fault and we are suffering for it

Buzz

Quote from: yabba on August 20, 2020, 01:15:17 PM
The DOE did not break contract with companies.  They just talking over a new payment ... we were just the weakest link ( drivers and escorts).

Have to disagree with you there, yabba. The city definitely did break the contract and I believe Carranza even acknowledged that in one interview.
I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.

Buzz


Not here to defend the union one way or the other regarding the slush fund. Just wanted to let you know that Ernie did try very early on to use that money to help us and that's what he was told.



I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.

OMG

There little doubt in my mind that Ernie did try to use that fund to help us out. But that was very early on in the pandemic. But here we are entering the third week in August, with no opt out money, no accrual money, and living on basic New York on employment. That money could be given out to each member to help us out a little. I'm losing whatever faith I have in Michael. That strike fund money could be used to help out the members, even if it's only a few hundred dollars each, make a damn effort. Do something !

yabba

Quote from: Buzz on August 20, 2020, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: yabba on August 20, 2020, 01:15:17 PM
The DOE did not break contract with companies.  They just talking over a new payment ... we were just the weakest link ( drivers and escorts).

Have to disagree with you there, yabba. The city definitely did break the contract and I believe Carranza even acknowledged that in one interview.

your right buzz...im just mean the bosses will be getting money and will survive very good...we are he ones who have no fight and got screwed...i think the little A$$hole said it while playing the guitar.... moron.. and i got nervous cause he was happy at the millions he was saving on the school buses... that why i think the plan is schools open with only special ed if they are required by law to provide buses...reg ed they going to bank the bucks to throw out the window somewhere else....  again i hope im wrong

Buzz

Quote from: OMG on August 21, 2020, 12:10:31 AM
That strike fund money could be used to help out the members, even if it's only a few hundred dollars each, make a damn effort. Do something !

I'm trying to explain that it would be illegal for them to use that money arbitrarily, but I completely understand your frustration.

Let's see what happens the 28th with the accrual money arbitration ... if it doesn't get postponed.
I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.

Buzz

Quote from: yabba on August 21, 2020, 12:31:03 AM

your right buzz...im just mean the bosses will be getting money and will survive very good...we are he ones who have no fight and got screwed...

If the contractors get money from the city then we have to get money ... accrual at the very least.
I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.

hideout

     My wife spoke to someone on her side of the family who has small children. They were just notified by the School/boe of the dates her child would be attending school under the blended learning plan. Unfortunately she didn't pay attention to the date but it was for PS 26 in Travis. I guess the teachers might not cooperate with that.

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The Chancellor definitely acknowledged that the DOE broke the contract and because of that the contractors broke their contract with us. Both parties are using COVID-19 as the reason. So both parties have done something illegal. You know where I'm going with this?!?

WigWag16

Just saw a video on Facebook where Florida is starting their buses back up next week. Honestly we are so behind then 8 ball on this it a joke. It's basically what we were doing prior to the shut down with cleaning the bus, wearing a mask and each kid has their own assigned seat for each grade with their name above them as well as wearing masks.

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Hammer2161

If we had Florida's numbers I am not sure I would be rushing back to work anyway. Listen I truly am not sure what is going on anymore here in NYC and I really don't give a shit what other cities and states are choosing to do. I just wish Dumblasio and the BOE would make a definitive decision and give us the Bus Drivers a chance to be ready for Sept.10th if that is going to be the day. As it stands now with every passing day our chances look more and more bleak. I think they are being very unfair to the parents students and US if they wait till the end of the month. We need a chance to do whatever it is they will finally decide upon so we can simply just do our jobs. Enough bullshit just make a fucking decision already.

Buzz

I am patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it.

Hammer2161

Unfortunately it doesn't seem anyone is giving the return to in person schooling a positive vote. What I don't understand is the absolute disregard for all of us involved. Do they really not understand what is at stake here. For many of the drivers and matrons this is far more serious than those assholes realize. Listen if going back is not the answer than be honest and tell us that. But also have something in place to help those that are going to need help. Far to many are potentially going to loose everything they have worked so hard to be able to have. The honest truth is we need some kind of stimulus package, I know most if not all of us would rather return to work and earn what it is we are entitled to. But if that is not a possibility get off your lazy asses and do something to help the people that need it to get through this. We are working class people and if the fucking politicians are honest it's the working class people that make this world go round. So for once support us and help us continue to live the lives we have chosen. Stop being so ignorant and show some sympathy for the working class. We did not choose to be in this situation but unfortunately we are think outside the box for once.