I just got  a flyer in the mail for the salerno slate. To me, their qualifactions  are very unimpressive. They have nowhere near the experience of the cordiello slate. Also, they have a history of telling lies to the union members to make  Cordiello look bad. This is scary, since there are actually some ignorant members who are going to vote for them. Lets hope the members do their research and make the wise choice of voting for THE CORDIELLO SLATE

 Very true and well said, Ernie!

Good news Buzz! and I thought the article about the e.p.p in this weeks chief seemed to have a positive light also!

 Yes, It is very possible, I phrased it incorrectly. I am glad it is cleared up ,though

i just got off the phone with the PBGC again, once i gave them the EIN number that buzz provided in the link, they said 1181 was listed as being insured by the PBGC. {i didnt have that information when i first called, maybe thats why i got the wrong information ?] i just wanted to clarify that, and i am sorry for the misinformation, but it was certainly not intentional.

okay Grrr, I dont know what each of the individual busdrivers and their families have to lose, and you dont either. You, or I also do not know what the union people have to lose. Correct me if i am wrong, but if the 1181 pension fund gets depleted ,their pensions will be  affected,just as the busdrivers will be . So, you are making an  assumption that because they make more money than us, that this will not hurt them also. Yes, if they saved their money,they are more insulated than the busdrivers ,if a worst case scenario happens, but  usually people who make that kind of money have a higher lifestyle to maintain.  Did you ever hear the  saying?  "Rich people have alot more to lose than poor people". Everybody loses without the E.P.P, not just the busdrivers ,but the whole union.   Thats  just my humble opinion, also.

 If there is no E.P.P,it really will not matter if you vote for them or not. I do believe they are  trying very hard. They have just as much to lose as you and me. lets just hope for the best.

  I am no expert,but according to  the PBGC website,the multiemployer plan [ which i believe applies to 1181,correct me if I am wrong] has a 8.3 billion dollar deficit. Now after reading this,i hope we are privately insured    ttps://www.pbgc.gov/res/annual-reports/multiemployer-plan-news-and-info.html      { if the link does not work,go to the PBGC website,click on VIEW MULTIEMPLOYER PLAN INFO and scroll to the bottom of the page where it says  PBGC PROGRAM IS FINANCIALLY STRAINED}

 No,i did not get the ladys name at the union that i spoke too.{Now I realize i probably should have}When i called the PBGC, i did not know that 1181 was listed on their website,because i never looked.I just called the the phone number and  spoke to a representative. After i posted what  i was told{ which i am now sorry that i did} i saw your post and link that showed 1181 on their website. I tried to call the PBGC tonight to confirm this, but they are closed. I will certainly call the PBGC  tomorrow and hopefully confirm what you are saying,Buzz. 

i called the union, i hit the extension for the pension department, a lady answered the phone{ i did not get her name}she told me the pension was not insured by the PBGC since it was a private pension plan. She then told me  not to worry because the pensions were good for 15 years ,if there is a worst case scenario. She then said that after 15 years ,the pensions would be compromised.She then said,after that point,the union would talk to their insurance company{not the PBGC} in regards to lowering pension payments. When I asked her for more  information regarding payments and details,she told me that i would have to contact  Robert D'iUlisse for anymore information.  it is possible she gave me misinformation{ i hope she did} but i would not intentionally spread misinformation. As far as the PBGC, i was on the phone awhile with the operator and she said she could not find an 1181 atu plan. I guess it is possible,the lady at the PBGC was wrong also,but this is what I was told. why doesnt someone else call the PBGC to find out?,since  this is an important issue

listen,i saw buzzes link that said  1181 pensions are insured by the PBGC. I hope that is true,but when i called the PBGC,they said 1181 was not listed. I then called the unions pension department and they also told me that the PBGC did not insure our pensions, but not to worry because the pension fund is in good shape right now and the pensions would be good for 15 years until the pension fund would then be compromised. I have no reason to lie or spread misinformation.This is what i was told. My pension is at stake here also. I hope buzz is right and i am wrong

I do my research before i make comments. The number for the PBGC is 1-800 400-7242. why dont you call them up and see if 1181 is listed as being insured with them?  I also talked to the pension department at the union and they told me the same thing.  i am not fabricating stories and i wish it were not true. do your research before calling me a liar. the  1181 pension has a private insurance company according to the union, but NOT THE PBGC, so that chart is irrelevant ,and by the way i have been in the 1181 union for 23 years,i go to all the meetings and believe cordiello is doing a good job given the circumstances,so i am not trying to discredit the union at all. 

I was told that 1181 pensions  are NOT INSURED BY THE  PBGC, therefore that chart does not apply to us. I called the PGBC yesterday and they  told me that 1181 pensions are not insured by the PBGC. I then called the union and spoke to the pension department to confirm this.They told me that since 1181 pensions are privately funded,they are not insured by the PBGC.