just saw in the Post. Talks are set for Monday between union & bus co.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bus_union_city_to_meet_over_crippling_oEA77ewVY0pYQFoRk80IBI
After reviewing all of this, It is back to the same which I said before... It is time to give back to protect our jobs.. Just think, The mayor will not be in office when the other runs are up in 2015. This will give us power and strength.. Just think to give back some in order to protect our jobs,, I think it is worth it. Not to give back everything, just something, so we can have our jobs. If Reliant picked up the work, we go after him, because he is 1181.. It's all competitive bargaining,, The contractors want to get bigger, because they then have more power. What are your thoughts on all this?? Let's not be selfish....
Quote from: Kramer on January 25, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
just saw in the Post. Talks are set for Monday between union & bus co.
But the sticky wicket is ... "The city will not have representatives in the talks."
Not holding out too much hope for any meaningful results.
Quote from: driver on January 25, 2013, 06:50:05 PM
After reviewing all of this, It is back to the same which I said before... It is time to give back to protect our jobs.. Just think, The mayor will not be in office when the other runs are up in 2015. This will give us power and strength.. Just think to give back some in order to protect our jobs,, I think it is worth it. Not to give back everything, just something, so we can have our jobs. If Reliant picked up the work, we go after him, because he is 1181.. It's all competitive bargaining,, The contractors want to get bigger, because they then have more power. What are your thoughts on all this?? Let's not be selfish....
Dude, are you lost? We are not negotiation for a contract with the owners. The owners are not negotiating a contract with the city. This is solely about the city putting out bids without the EPP.
Guys were on strike for 13 weeks in '79 ... no pay, no benefits. Some had to take other jobs to go to after strike duty. They stuck together and stuck it out so people like you would have the job you're so afraid of losing. If they had your attitude, you would not be enjoying the pay and benefits you have now and probably not even be here. Would you be in any better position to not have a job 2 years from now if the mayor succeeds?
I believe the strike vote was unanimous. Did you vote against it? If not, get your balls about you, dig in and harden your resolve to support the action WE VOTED FOR.
Well said
Hey "Driver", are you talking like this in front of a burn barrel with your fellow brother's & sister's trying to stay warm, I don't think so ! We're all struggling, we're all worried. We need to stand together, help each other, be there for one another, and stay together "because we have to". I know I look at my fellow driver & matron to the left and right of me at the burn barrel a whole lot different than I did 9 days ago. I feel MUCH closer to them, because we really need one another now more than ever. I myself have two small children, a massive mortgage, and a very expensive wife, and NO PENSION. The Mayor is defenitely wrong with what he's doing to the thousands of people he's trying to hurt, and I know we're right by fighting to keep what we have. So "Driver", my advice to you if your so head strong on "giving back", is to march up those gates at AK yard and go talk to Neal about going back to work, because your a weak link in a very strong chain, and we don't want you. YOU BROUGHT ME OUT !
driver i have read all your post and i try to calm my self, but i can hold it any more, if you don't have a ball to stand up so shut the fuck up and hide your self or get the fuck out to find another job, bro & sister of 1181 don't need the pussy like you >:( >:( >:(
If you go on afl-CIO website there is a statement from union President Cordiello. He met with Bloomy on weds. Looks like the mayor wants everyone to sit down and make a deal.
Quote from: Rock Steady on January 26, 2013, 04:30:24 AM
... I myself have two small children, a massive mortgage, and a very expensive wife, ...
Might want to start cutting your losses ... start with the latter ... LOL.
(Just kidding, bro.)
Quote from: Goose623 on January 26, 2013, 06:02:52 AM
If you go on afl-CIO website there is a statement from union President Cordiello. He met with Bloomy on weds. Looks like the mayor wants everyone to sit down and make a deal.
Couldn't find it on the AFL-CIO website, but here is Michael's statement ... http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/important.pdf
But again, the mayor is blowing smoke up everybody's ass if the city is not at the meeting. This is not an issue that can be resolved between the union and contractors. Bloomy is the one who caused us to go on strike and he has to be part of the equation or we're getting nowhere.
The way I see it, contractors have to say to the mayor something like, "Look, extend the EPP for 'X' number of months/years to give us time to negotiate contracts that will enable us to submit lower, more competitive bids."
However that will happen will be for the local and coalition to duke out. As near as I can estimate ... and I admit it's not exact ... our salaries/benefits barely amount to 30% of Bloomy's 1.1 billion dollar transportation budget. (If the union does not know exactly what that percentage is, they should hire somebody to figure that out.) Where is the rest of the money going? Maybe the mayor should look at specialized services such as helicopters, ambulances, private nurses, etc. And somebody should tell him the people who provide those services are not 1181. We're not what's wrong with this picture.
Lets just get one thing straight. I want nothing more then to have the EPP back, and go back to work. However, there is always that possibility of something.. I can express myself as everyone else can. I stand tall with everyone here. It is just that in 1979 there were only two bus companies and they were union. Today there are alot of non-union out there, that's all I am saying. I hope it works in our favor, believe me!!! Do you think anything will come out of this meeting on Monday? I am very concerned about not having health insurance at the end of the week, along with alot of other drivers/matrons who voiced their concerns on the strike line. We are not city employees, although I wish we were. We work for contractors.. I hope next week things come to a speedy conclusion in our favor... Also, the mayor said the EPP was illegal.... Does he have a copy of the mollen agreement!!!! to show it was a legal documentation....
The Mayor now know's the EPP and the strike is legal, he know's about Boston.
Driver do yourself a favor and "SHUT THE FUCK UP" YOU ARE NO UNION BROTHER, YOU ARE WHAT SCABS ARE MADE OF.. PLEASE WHEN YOU DECIDE TO CROSS THE PICKET LINE, CROSS IT IN FRONT OF ME......
4Real.....Nicely said. Love the post. Hey Buzz, throw his ass off this site.
The poster is not doing anything wrong ... entitled to his/her opinion, that's what it's all about here. Seems to have a misguided sense of brotherhood and the importance of the strength of unity. Running scared, but not necessarily a bad person.
Look Mayor Bloomberg is spinning the media like a pro that he is.....................He made his billions in the media market. Michael Cordiello had a BIG old 30 seconds on fox news on day 2 of the strike! Bloomy now says the union must sit down with the contractors to hash out an agreement. Can't you understand how he is playing us like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
driver: statement "I am very concerned about not having health insurance at the end of the week,"
Asshole you should be. You probably know we are also covered for Mental Health Problems, and You Need It!!!
This site been around many years and we dealt with Jerkoffs much smarter than you are. You keep saying "It is time to give back to protect our jobs".
ASSHOLE NOBODY IS DISCUSSING OUR CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTORS WITHOUT THE EPP BEING SETTLED FIRST!
NOW GO TO THE MARRON'S ROOM AND REPEAT IT UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANS, THEN GO TO THE LINK I MADE FOR YOU!!
ps: I see you must have missed, I should have told you to use a AK47!
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Quote from: WTF on January 27, 2013, 06:07:57 AM
NOW GO TO THE MARRON'S ROOM
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People lets not forget the dispute is not against the bus companies it is against the Bloomberg administration's 1930's attitude toward labor and his complete disregard of practices, agreements and laws.
The owners are just as bad.,don't trust them for a minute. Nice big ad in advance today pioneer hiring.