Today's hand out letter from the Union to the Parents was written very well. It was short, simple and to the point.
BUT.........
It asks for the Parent's support and understanding. Which is great. BUT in my opinion if you don't actually tell the parents how to voice their support then the letter is useless. We'd be lucky if one out of ten parents did something on their own.
At the end of the letter it should have stated to call or email ur council person, Congressperson or the Mayor's Office and ask them to help with the negotiations. Or give them the number to that Parent Organization or even to call Pioneer and ask for the owner.
So as good as the letter is, it's basically worthless!
@PROUD MEMBER - Have to agree with you on that point.
This flier SUCKS!! Trying to get the parents to have sympathy for us is BULLSHIT. They couldn't care less about us. Many of them get up earlier, put in more hours and get paid less. Boo hoo hoo, poor drivers .. THEY HAVE NO FUCKS TO GIVE!!
This is the wrong approach. It should not be about US. It should be about THEM! The letter below is what I would have written. (Got the idea for the last paragraph from PROUD MEMBER ... thank you.)
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Well said Buzz
It's to bad you didn't bring it to the Union before today's letter "went out".
Quote from: Buzz on September 18, 2023, 05:33:22 PMThis flier SUCKS!! Trying to get the parents to have sympathy for us is BULLSHIT. They couldn't care less about us. Many of them get up earlier, put in more hours and get paid less. Boo hoo hoo, poor drivers .. THEY HAVE NO FUCKS TO GIVE!!
This is the wrong approach. It should not be about US. It should be about THEM! The letter below is what I would have written. (Got the idea for the last paragraph from PROUD MEMBER ... thank you.)
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;D ;D ;D with the beautiful relationship that I have we the parents wasn't this the same union that was asking everybody to vote for the same politicians that they want parents to call now why can they call them themselves
Quote from: Buzz on September 18, 2023, 05:33:22 PMThis flier SUCKS!! Trying to get the parents to have sympathy for us is BULLSHIT. They couldn't care less about us. Many of them get up earlier, put in more hours and get paid less. Boo hoo hoo, poor drivers .. THEY HAVE NO FUCKS TO GIVE!!
This is the wrong approach. It should not be about US. It should be about THEM! The letter below is what I would have written. (Got the idea for the last paragraph from PROUD MEMBER ... thank you.)
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The Union can always use a better angle on public relations . Since we aren't going out on strike in the next day or so there's nothing wrong with drawing up a second letter to get their goat . It should be foot in neck all the time doing everything we can . But then I digress and it's back to why are we covering work playing nice????
UPS didn't have parents, UAW went out (still unsettled I think they wanted one contract for all sounds familiar ) they didn't have parents . And a bunch of other unions that won big don't have parents . Anyway as much as it's unfair to compare . We are still essential and highly qualified and we can do more ourselves than any parent or hack politician.
I think we all should draw the common denominator the 12 year contract is atrocious. We need to do better if we all want a pension to be there when it's our time . Just like the coming presidential election this is even more important than last contract .
The City offering Metro cards and paying for cabs and Ubers and I believe even reimbursing parents that drive students to and from school doesn't help our cause either. As we experienced last Strike the school day and the students getting to and from school wasn't as dramatic as we (or at least I) thought it would be.
And I forgot the at home online classes.
Another waste of millions & millions of dollars on laptops & tablets that the children either didn't use or didn't learn anything by using. My opinion, just like with Bloomberg this administration as with dumbblasio's is with the owners and not us.
QuoteMy opinion, just like with Bloomberg this administration as with dumbblasio's is with the owners and not us.
I'm not sure you're right about that. Adams is trying awfully hard not to have a strike. I think he he's going to appease them to get a decent contract out of them ... just my opinion.
If he was trying that hard he would ask the owners and 1181 if someone from his administration or even himself could sit in on the negotiations.
QuoteIf he was trying that hard he would ask the owners and 1181 if someone from his administration or even himself could sit in on the negotiations.
Are you sure that is not happening? A city mediator may be attending for advice to both sides.
As far as last week when I asked Anthony he said that the Mayor's Office met with the Union but not with both sides while at the table. And as far as the Mayor's Office meeting separately with the Owners, that I wouldn't know.
Proud Member I would hope that the City made its point known to the contractors to make a deal. The city is oblivious, lazy, woke and Cart before the horse . With all that negligence they simply know the owners are rolling in the money .
Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 19, 2023, 05:21:39 PMAs far as last week when I asked Anthony he said that the Mayor's Office met with the Union but not with both sides while at the table. And as far as the Mayor's Office meeting separately with the Owners, that I wouldn't know.
That in itself should show how much Adams wants to avoid a strike ... for a mayor to get involved personally, even if it was just with the union (I think that was with reps from the International). And as far as I know, someone from the city almost always sits in on negotiations.
Come on Buzz, u've been around a while.
Did u ever think it could be to ensure he gets the endorsement of 1181 and the votes of its appropriate 12,000 active & retired members when reelection time comes around.
Meanwhile don't think he's not playing both sides to make sure he gets campaign contributions from the owners come election time. He use to be a cop but he's a Politician Now!!!
Other mayors weren't too worried about getting our votes. But yes, of course he's pandering to both sides ... that's politics.