We all know this is going to end up being just another DOE/OPT fiasco but we have to humor them ...
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A boondoggle. Another waste of time and money
Hopefully there will be representatives from OPT not just IT guys and 19 a instructors other than Owen because we know how he feels about it to hear our concerns about children safeties looking at the stupid phones while kids are getting on and off the bus
Any idea how long the training is scheduled for?
Quote from: Eucerin on May 20, 2022, 05:29:03 PMAny idea how long the training is scheduled for?
Probably depends on how many questions people have.
Hate to tell you this ... and it is UNOFFICIAL ... but there is reason to believe that the pencil-necks from the city will give half hour classes to 15 people at a time. IF TRUE it will take at least until 12:30 to have trained 96 people.
Again, the city has not told anybody exactly how they plan to run this but I just wanted to give you a heads up to this possibility.
So if you thought it was going to suck, it will probably suck even more than you thought!
I got 3 trips next week and going to BK the day I'm supposed to go....I'll attend a day I don't have a trip so I don't deal with Owen getting pissy with me why I'm late coming from a trip
QuoteI got 3 trips next week and going to BK the day I'm supposed to go....I'll attend a day I don't have a trip so I don't deal with Owen getting pissy with me why I'm late coming from a trip
Yes, either that or come in between on your local trips.
As expected, total shit show this morning. DOE sends ONE guy, can't connect to the network until 10:30 then all he does is scan your ID card and have you set a password on one of their phones. It's you last name (first letter capital) and the last 4 of your social.
No "training" whatsoever. No seniority order, nothing organized, nobody in control, typical DOE sponsored cluster fuck. Hopefully they'll have it together by tomorrow.
I disagree with you.
First off it wasn't the DOE that sent ONE person. He doesn't works for the DOE. He works for the company that the DOE has the contract with. That company sent one person.
Secondly, as far as order or seniority goes at 9:00am when the training was to start Owen came out and said the first 5 people near the door to go in. Which I happened to be one of. And when I and the other four that were near the door went in the young man that was giving the training did actually give us training. After the training he scanned our cards as you said and had us set up a password. And the password does not have to be your last name and the last four of ur social. It has to be eight characters with one capital letter and at least one number.
As far as him not being able to connect to the network that was out of his control as the administrator of this site I'm sure you if anyone would understand.
And not to knock my Shop Stewards but if you were going to do it in seniority order then obviously someone has to be at the door just like the day of any pick to coordinate that. And obviously that is out of the hands of the DOE or anyone from that company.
Lastly, the only reason after the first five people no one else received any training was because of the impatientncy of everyone there who just bombarded the poor kid.
I had asked him once the network is up how long would it take and he said each group five people would take approximately 8 to 10 minutes.
So in "today's" case the "shit show" should be blamed on the impatience of the drivers and nobody else.
As Joe Friday says "Just the facts, ma'am."
Well, I ... and many others ... did NOT get any training whatsoever. And he TOLD me the password was to be my last name and first 4.
The DOE should have made sure the company they contracted sent more than one person.
As far a being impatient, well an hour and a fucking half and nothing is happening because the guy can't get on the network or what the fuck ever ... yeah, people tend to get impatient.
Andy never said it was to be in seniority order. I think people just assumed that. The days were split up that way so everybody wouldn't show up at once. But somebody should have told us it was a first come basis ... especially after Owen came out and hand picked 5 senior guys to go in.
This is exactly how it went over the summer...too much confusion, not enough answers to questions being answered especially with certain scenarios. Waste of money and waste of time for us drivers
Owen did Come out and say and I quote the first five top guys come in some people took it upon themselves to consider themselves One of the top-five... and as far as our Shop Stewart he was asked why not read off the seniority list in order he said why don't you guys just put yourself in seniority order and walked away left the yard... SMFH
I was one of those first five guys and none of us took it upon ourselves and you could ask Andy because he was standing right there Owen pointed to the first five guys near the door and told us to go in.
QuoteOwen did Come out and say and I quote the first five top guys come in some people took it upon themselves to consider themselves One of the top-five... and as far as our Shop Stewart he was asked why not read off the seniority list in order he said why don't you guys just put yourself in seniority order and walked away left the yard... SMFH
If Owen said that then I guess that's why people assumed it was to go in seniority order. However, neither Andrew nor Anthony said it was to be in seniority order. They were not going to stand there for 3 hours checking off seniority numbers and I don't blame them. This was NOT a union thing and it was not their responsibility. Everybody knows who's ahead of them and should have done this by the honor system.
But I guess somebody should have at least made it clear one way or another.
Took two seconds to set up it's gonna be just a password you create which is your last name and last 4 of your ssn. They clearly didn't go by seniority order although they tried by saying to do so, so get there as early as you can
The girl said all they have it set up for is a gps so the parents can see where the bus is, they haven't set it up yet for kids to scan their ids
Took two seconds to set up it's gonna be just a password you create which is your last name and last 4 of your ssn. They clearly didn't go by seniority order although Anthony said line up in seniority order but drivers weren't having it that were there early so get there as early as you can. The girl said all they have it set up for is a gps so the parents can see where the bus is, they haven't set it up yet for kids to scan their ids
Anytime we are asked to do something weather for the company or opt it's ALWAYS A UNION THING what are you talking about they represent us
QuoteAnytime we are asked to do something weather for the company or opt it's ALWAYS A UNION THING what are you talking about they represent us
When we're told to come in and order uniforms is it a "union" thing? Is it by seniority? When we're assigned buses is it by seniority? When we have safety classes we report by seniority number but do we sign out that way so we can get out of there? Same thing here.
You seem to have a lot invested in blaming the union and you're entitled to your opinion. I'll just say that it should have been made clear by
somebody as to how it was going to go.
:thumbup: :head_wall:
So I hear the second day went a lot smoother. First of all, there were 3 people there to process passwords, not just one. Then apparently they had NO hour and a half delay trying to get on the network. But most of all, I'm told, there was no bitching and crying about seniority order. People just lined up orderly as they got there.
But then, we senior drivers have always been known to be the biggest whiners. ;D ;D ;D