Very confusing predicament!

[wheresmymoney!]

Theyll probably fuel buses the rest of this week. Lets be positive

[LMAO]

So today's COVID class was" drivers are on there own "

So the office is Fort Knox

The Shop ,don't even think about It ( as Owen stated the shop has a right to work in a safe environment and He will make sure of it !

But to many kids on the bus  ( the paper says you must pick them up )  cricket cricket cricket  Ahhhh safety If this doesn't show you what they think of you I don't know what will !

[OMG]

LMAO, my sentiments exactly. Walk through the yard without a mask, hearing! Walking to the office, hearing! Step foot in the shop, hearing! Just make sure your windows are open, hand out a mask, here's some hand sanitizer, then shut the fuck up! When some of us voiced our concerns about our safety within the last month or so on this website, all I heard was that the Board of Education will not put the children or drivers or escorts at risk, well here we are. We need some clarity before Monday. These last couple of days were truly a cluster fuck!

[Buzz]

So today's COVID class was" drivers are on there own "

So the office is Fort Knox

The Shop ,don't even think about It ( as Owen stated the shop has a right to work in a safe environment and He will make sure of it !

But to many kids on the bus  ( the paper says you must pick them up )  cricket cricket cricket  Ahhhh safety If this doesn't show you what they think of you I don't know what will !

Excellent points ... for a change.   

[Hammer2161]

As I said earlier and possibly in another post we need to decide what it is we will and will not tolerate. The last two days were most certainly a cluster fuck. Everyone deserves to be safe but us. I was told we are not even allowed in the shop stewards room. This is an utter fucking joke. Protect everyone but the drivers and matrons.

I for one am not going to buy cleaning supplies to keep everyone else that rides my bus safe. I will keep my area and my matrons area sanitized and clean and I will sweep out the bus as usual but I am not sanitizing the entire bus twice a day on my money. They failed to even attempt to clean my van and I want you to know it was just recently inspected by dot. I truly believe the don't give two shits about us at this point.

[hideout]

    Buzz you say we are basically screwed. But what is are union response to the lack of safety protocol? What happened to the union's safety proposal that Michael put out a few months back? There has to be  some kind of response other than were fuc.... Can something legally be done, some city,state, fed. agency pertaining to workers safety,ect. Even the MTA had Plexiglas installed on their buses, something. Can the union find out what's up with the lack of clarity with the BOE indicating a seating diagram with only 10 students then indicating elsewhere that any student with a mask must be allowed on the bus. We need answers don't we deserve at least that much or are we some kind of robots and shouldn't question anything. It's just not fair on any level.

[Hammer2161]

https://www.atu.org/coronavirusresources/STRAT_COVIDRighttoRefuse.pdf

https://labor.ny.gov/workerprotection/laborstandards/coronavirus-complaints.shtm

Hideout, both of those links were posted by Buzz in the 1181 Matters section of this thread. They explain our rights to refuse work both from a letter from ATU and the DOL.

As I stated there I will here, we need to decide how loud we scream. For sure we will win this battle but I am not sure we would win the war.

[yabba]

.  10  single use china mask.... can we use them or are we on our own... small bottle of hand sanitizer...   and we signed for them like they were gold.. 

[OMG]

Even our union office are social distancing, they are rotating working from home and working in the office, and that's how it should be, safe! Us, Masks from China, hand sanitizer, and not a real plan on getting the kids to and from school.

[yabba]

Listen this is going to be not accepted here.  But the last 2 days how did 1181 address us on these covid classes

[OMG]

I really don't think they have the answers, just like Owen said when he read that paper to us. But they are the only ones who can give us answers because they are the only ones who can look into this and get us a clear-cut answer to these contradicting Circumstances. But honestly, This should have been decided upon long ago. Only 10 students, but take anyone with a mask. Ridiculous

[WigWag16]

From what I gathered today and yesterday....
1) we aren't responsible for any cleaning on the bus, the mechanics do that.
2) the ten masks for the students will likely be gone by the time you get to your third stop...what do you do if you have no mask to provide because the company can only afford to give us ten at the moment
3) NO SAFETY PROTOCOLS FOR OUR HEALTH HAS BEEN TOLD TO US
4) I guess there are no thermometer checks for staff or students
5) NOBODY went into any detail or what happens to us should a student test positive or staff member test positive?
6) only social distance it you have 10 or less...anything more than ten socially distancing goes out the window

At the end of the day the important issues still haven't been addressed

[yabba]

From what I gathered today and yesterday....
1) we aren't responsible for any cleaning on the bus, the mechanics do that.
2) the ten masks for the students will likely be gone by the time you get to your third stop...what do you do if you have no mask to provide because the company can only afford to give us ten at the moment
3) NO SAFETY PROTOCOLS FOR OUR HEALTH HAS BEEN TOLD TO US
4) I guess there are no thermometer checks for staff or students
5) NOBODY went into any detail or what happens to us should a student test positive or staff member test positive?
6) only social distance it you have 10 or less...anything more than ten socially distancing goes out the window

At the end of the day the important issues still haven't been addressed

if we contact covid or are exposed and forced into quarantine... are we paid..100% or 85% or 0... 

[PROUD MEMBER]

I'm going in Monday and doing exactly what I was told. I understand everyone's frustration and concerns but all we are doing on this site and other sites is venting. We are asking questions and looking for answers from each other instead of asking Michael, Ernie, Andy or Owen. At the end of my 20 minute class today and yesterday Owen asked if anyone had questions and I was the only one that asked him a question. Ernie and Andy were there yesterday and Andy was there again today (possibly Ernie also), how many of us asked them questions? Apparently not many because we're on this site asking Buzz or asking each other.

[OMG]

I asked questions today, and got a lot of this.🤷🏼