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DRIVERS' ROOM => Work Related => Topic started by: yabba on March 13, 2013, 10:29:17 PM

Title: 1181 letter
Post by: yabba on March 13, 2013, 10:29:17 PM
if you go to the 1181 website and read the new letter on negoitiation ...lol.. meeting on 4-4-13...get ready guys and girls  :bomb: :bomb:.... im glad we striked for 5 weeks for our leadership to write a letter like this to us...
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 14, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Guess you're referring to the "Negotiations Update" ... http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/info-negotiation-update.pdf

Realistically, yabba, what do you expect them to say... "We got them on the ropes, boys"?

Let's face it ... we shot our load ... now what? What recourse do we have? Go on strike again?

Without the EPP, we're fu#ked. The way I see it, the union and contractors are never going to come to an agreement on their own. It'll probably end up going to a mediator. Whatever he deems reasonable is what we get ... or I should say, what we lose. And all we can do at this point is lick our wounds and say, "Thank you, sir."

Then we have to hope that we get the EPP back, either from Albany or a new mayor, and can make a comeback. Hopefully our upcoming contract will be short one and we won't have to live with it too long.

If that doesn't happen, those who can might want to consider retiring, collecting their 1181 pension, and going to work for Fred for $1000 a week.





Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 14, 2013, 12:13:31 AM
"... companies who employ a substantial number of our members, appear to be losing money."

Really? Maybe companies who appear to be losing money have handed over their other set of books.  :devil:
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: hognol on March 14, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
If that doesn't happen, those who can might want to consider retiring, collecting their 1181 pension, and going to work for Fred for $1000 a week.


Fred won't be paying anywhere near that if the EPP is gone and the lowest bidder comes in at $450.
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 15, 2013, 12:13:38 AM
Quote from: hognol on March 14, 2013, 09:07:24 PMFred won't be paying anywhere near that if the EPP is gone and the lowest bidder comes in at $450.

Yeah, you're probably right.
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: bug on March 16, 2013, 07:00:36 PM
I don't think you can collect your 1181 pension and work for another company in the industry
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Moose on March 16, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
if its a non union company i dont see why not
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Moose on March 16, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
i would not do it anyway
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
I believe Moose is correct ... as long as it's not an 1181 company. (Actually, up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension.)
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: topgun on March 17, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Can't you sleep Buzz, You were up at 4:24 :yawn:
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Eucerin on March 17, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
are you able now to collect a penison and work after age 70 from 1181?? ....."up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension"
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: bug on March 17, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/annual-cert-2012.pdf            This link will show you where it says you can't work in the industry.
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Eucerin on March 17, 2013, 11:32:30 PM
thanks bug
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 18, 2013, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: Eucerin on March 17, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
are you able now to collect a penison and work after age 70 from 1181?? ....."up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension"
No, not any more. I believe Artie Beaty (sp?) was the last one.
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 18, 2013, 01:25:46 AM
Quote from: bug on March 17, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/annual-cert-2012.pdf            This link will show you where it says you can't work in the industry.

Never knew ... thanks.

(Guess you'd have to work outside of NYC.)
Title: Re: 1181 letter
Post by: Buzz on March 18, 2013, 01:26:45 AM
Quote from: topgun on March 17, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Can't you sleep Buzz, You were up at 4:24 :yawn:

Just used to getting up that early for work, but on the weekends I go back to sleep for a while.