1181 letter

[yabba]

if you go to the 1181 website and read the new letter on negoitiation ...lol.. meeting on 4-4-13...get ready guys and girls  .... im glad we striked for 5 weeks for our leadership to write a letter like this to us...

[Buzz]

Guess you're referring to the "Negotiations Update" ... http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/info-negotiation-update.pdf

Realistically, yabba, what do you expect them to say... "We got them on the ropes, boys"?

Let's face it ... we shot our load ... now what? What recourse do we have? Go on strike again?

Without the EPP, we're fu#ked. The way I see it, the union and contractors are never going to come to an agreement on their own. It'll probably end up going to a mediator. Whatever he deems reasonable is what we get ... or I should say, what we lose. And all we can do at this point is lick our wounds and say, "Thank you, sir."

Then we have to hope that we get the EPP back, either from Albany or a new mayor, and can make a comeback. Hopefully our upcoming contract will be short one and we won't have to live with it too long.

If that doesn't happen, those who can might want to consider retiring, collecting their 1181 pension, and going to work for Fred for $1000 a week.

[Buzz]

"... companies who employ a substantial number of our members, appear to be losing money."

Really? Maybe companies who appear to be losing money have handed over their other set of books. 

[hognol]

If that doesn't happen, those who can might want to consider retiring, collecting their 1181 pension, and going to work for Fred for $1000 a week.


Fred won't be paying anywhere near that if the EPP is gone and the lowest bidder comes in at $450.

[Buzz]

Fred won't be paying anywhere near that if the EPP is gone and the lowest bidder comes in at $450.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[bug]

I don't think you can collect your 1181 pension and work for another company in the industry

[Moose]

if its a non union company i dont see why not

[Moose]

i would not do it anyway

[Buzz]

I believe Moose is correct ... as long as it's not an 1181 company. (Actually, up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension.)

[topgun]

Can't you sleep Buzz, You were up at 4:24

[Eucerin]

are you able now to collect a penison and work after age 70 from 1181?? ....."up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension"

[bug]

http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/annual-cert-2012.pdf            This link will show you where it says you can't work in the industry.

[Eucerin]

thanks bug

[Buzz]

are you able now to collect a penison and work after age 70 from 1181?? ....."up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension"

No, not any more. I believe Artie Beaty (sp?) was the last one.

[Buzz]

http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/annual-cert-2012.pdf            This link will show you where it says you can't work in the industry.

Never knew ... thanks.

(Guess you'd have to work outside of NYC.)