Buses to Tuesday's Meeting

Buzz · September 22, 2023, 05:07:38 PM

PROUD MEMBER · September 22, 2023, 06:23:47 PM

Is today Groundhog Day???

Buzz · September 22, 2023, 07:35:19 PM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 22, 2023, 06:23:47 PMIs today Groundhog Day???

Cross-posted because I know it's important to Anthony. Some people look only at the Work Related board.

Okay, wise-azz?

Seriously though, I don't remember Anthony asking people to go to a meeting before now. He knows most of them are bullshit. So for him to request attendance it must be pretty important to him. Since most of the contract is for the benefit of the 2013-plus hirees, I think it would be a slap in the face to Anthony for anybody in that group not to attend. Just my humble opinion.

PROUD MEMBER · September 23, 2023, 03:09:56 AM

Since you put it that way.
"Anybody in that group not to attend"
I have to ask the question.
Are you going?

Slowbus · September 23, 2023, 05:01:07 AM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 23, 2023, 03:09:56 AMSince you put it that way.
"Anybody in that group not to attend"
I have to ask the question.
Are you going?

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Slowbus · September 23, 2023, 05:03:21 AM

Quote from: Slowbus on September 23, 2023, 05:01:07 AM
Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 23, 2023, 03:09:56 AMSince you put it that way.
"Anybody in that group not to attend"
I have to ask the question.
Are you going?
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PROUD MEMBER · September 23, 2023, 03:39:08 PM

All kidding aside, it's up to each and everyone of us if we decide to go to a meeting. No one should tell you or force you to go. And you shouldn't say it's a slap in Anthony's face if the 2013 group doesn't go. If you're gonna say that then you should say it's a slap in Anthony's face if ANY of us don't go. Besides what Senior Members will get in this new contract anything that the "2013 Group" gets is not only beneficial to them but beneficial to each and everyone of us and the future of this Union Local. Just my humble opinion.

04012013 · September 23, 2023, 04:41:51 PM

I don't see it as a slap to Anthony if post 2013 drivers do not/can not attend the meeting. A passing thank you to Anthony and those in his office, as well as any delegate or board member that visits should be sufficient for a job well done. The majority of pre and post 2013 drivers will be satisfied with the outcome of these negotiations and of the effort of the union, owners and the City. In regards to a slap, did Anthony slap the post 2013 drivers with his involvement over the years? Lets forget the "slapping" reference and be proud of the accomplishment.

PROUD MEMBER · September 23, 2023, 05:16:03 PM

That's my whole point. Whether you're Pre or Post 2013 there's no slapping to anyone. Just as no one should be told or influenced that they must go to a meeting. Although it would be great that we ALL attend the meeting (not just this meeting but every meeting) a simple thank you and show of appreciation is fine. It appears that this contract has every member (at least members of legacy companies back under one contract). So it time to stop with the separation. And as I stated no matter who is going to get whatever in this contract, it doesn't just benefit a certain group. It benefits all of us and this LOCAL. Hopefully in the coming years the next step will be to get ALL 1181 properties (not just legacy) under one contract again. And one more thing. And I can get in trouble for this but let's not forget just as we choose to be be drivers & matrons and get paid for doing our job to the best of our ability so does our President, Delegates and Stewards. They do the job that they chose to the best of their ability and get paid for it. Sometimes like us, they fail and sometimes as in this case they prevail.
I'll see you Tuesday night and if not the best to you and your families!

mirrorcheck · September 23, 2023, 10:20:24 PM

Since I have been here I have seen 3 new shop stewards and 3 Union Presidents . I'm assuming they want support cause as mentioned there are a few 1181 member contracts still up in the air. Some were in negotiations longer than us. Hopefully the Trend was set and everyone else piggy Backs the deal. Everyone deserves what was had for what they do , in all sorts of weather and conditions delivering "Precious Cargo" safely .

PROUD MEMBER · September 28, 2023, 01:11:26 AM

Hope the contract is as disappointing as the meeting.

04012013 · September 28, 2023, 01:44:22 AM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 28, 2023, 01:11:26 AMHope the contract is as disappointing as the meeting.

Is or Is not?

Buzz · September 28, 2023, 01:44:45 AM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 28, 2023, 01:11:26 AMHope the contract is as disappointing as the meeting.

Why do you say that?

Buzz · September 28, 2023, 02:39:03 AM

Quote from: 04012013 on September 28, 2023, 01:44:22 AM
Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 28, 2023, 01:11:26 AMHope the contract is as disappointing as the meeting.

Is or Is not?

I'm assuming he meant "is not" but still wondering what he meant by disappointing.

Buzz · September 28, 2023, 02:45:27 AM

Quote from: 04012013 on September 23, 2023, 04:41:51 PMI don't see it as a slap to Anthony if post 2013 drivers do not/can not attend the meeting. ... Lets forget the "slapping" reference and be proud of the accomplishment.

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 23, 2023, 03:39:08 PMAnd you shouldn't say it's a slap in Anthony's face if the 2013 group doesn't go.

Point taken!

PROUD MEMBER · September 28, 2023, 11:07:43 AM

I meant "is not"

Buzz · September 28, 2023, 05:25:46 PM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 28, 2023, 11:07:43 AMI meant "is not"

I know you meant "is not" but what do you mean the meeting was disappointing? In what way? What were you expecting?

Slowbus · September 28, 2023, 07:24:37 PM

we were all excited expecting real numbers and figures instead we got "years to top pay was reduced significantly and is going to be a nice number "

Buzz · September 28, 2023, 08:17:04 PM

Quote from: Slowbus on September 28, 2023, 07:24:37 PMwe were all excited expecting real numbers and figures instead we got "years to top pay was reduced significantly and is going to be a nice number "

Now, see, that's exactly what I would have expected. After 30 years of this kind of shit, you learn. 😁

PROUD MEMBER · September 29, 2023, 12:12:27 AM

Buzz either ur kidding or I don't understand ur comment.
You're saying after 30 years that's "exactly" what you would have expected.
"That kind of shit."
Yet last week you were the one that suggested to the "new hires" to go to the meeting otherwise it a slap in Anthony's face.
Unfortunately that is exactly what I expected and that's why I said no Member should be told or influenced to go to a meeting. They should be asked. And I'm not saying that any of us shouldn't go. Far from it. I use to go to every meeting. Unfortunately maybe bc of age, ailments, where the meetings are held and after my 20 years I don't go anymore.

PROUD MEMBER · September 29, 2023, 12:23:09 AM

Furthermore let me say one more thing, so my comments are not taken the wrong way. Whether or not I agree with our Board or Steward, outside of this Local I always stand with them but if I disagree with them I will voice my opinion, not just on this site or other sites or at the schools with the other drivers. I will and have told them face to face. And one more thing I think Anthony does a great job but I do not group him with the Board. He has no control over what the Board does.

Buzz · September 29, 2023, 01:16:44 AM

Listen, there were many, MANY times in the past that we were "asked" to attend meetings and I did so ... many, MANY times. When Eddie or Ernie wanted a turnout, for whatever reason, I was there.

Many of those times were during the "Members for Change" uprisings (I'll call it that) and their election challenges. Those meetings were actually interesting ... even "fun." Then there were the meetings when the International took us over for a while. Serious business and important meetings. But other than that most meetings were bullshit ... and you know it.

Yet, as a "junior" driver, I went because it was requested. And it was mostly junior drivers who went. And now I feel it is up to the newer members to respond accordingly and to make up the numbers because it is they who will likely be here more years than older drivers and whose future is at stake and will be the ones to benefit the most. I feel it is incumbent upon them to sit through their share of bullshit meetings. (And about 130 of them did so this time! Nice turnout.) But yes, at my age, I am not ashamed to sit them out and make no apologies for doing so.

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Anthony does a thankless job as do Bob, Scott, Nico and Ralph. I could never put up with the bullshit that Anthony and Bob do. Anthony gets a small stipend, but not enough to compensate for what he has to do. The others get zilch. I am not bashful about expressing my gratitude to all of them throughout the year.

PROUD MEMBER · September 29, 2023, 02:34:08 PM

If ur talking to me specifically, I am not asking for an apology from you or anyone who doesn't attend any meeting. No other should need to. We all have personal lives and obligations besides the job.
We are All Union Brothers & Sisters and for us that are here long enough, we are friends. I believe over the last week my comments have clearly showed how I feel about everything. And like I said no matter what I always speak what's on my mind throughout our Brotherhood (which we all should). Sometimes even though I know I shouldn't I do it for those who for some reason are afraid to.
Having said that, I'm done with this conversation and probably all conversations going forward.
Let's just hope that the new contract is as good as we're told it is.
On another note did all the legacy drivers and matrons get the 4 hours in their paycheck that was owed to us from the 1st week of work?

OnTime · September 29, 2023, 04:01:27 PM

trust the process

Buzz · September 29, 2023, 04:13:31 PM

@PROUD MEMBER - No, wasn't speaking to you specifically. Also, most of the time I agree with you but even if I don't I value your comments and this is the place to speak your mind and get things off your chest. I always appreciate your comments no matter what.

Buzz · September 29, 2023, 04:22:27 PM

Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 29, 2023, 02:34:08 PMOn another note did all the legacy drivers and matrons get the 4 hours in their paycheck that was owed to us from the 1st week of work?

I did ... finally.

mirrorcheck · September 29, 2023, 04:49:10 PM

The union expressed they didn't want to go into specific numbers as if they were off by a few cents they would be held to that . In this litigious society they are 1,000 % correct . Either way it will be written up , then has ti go to the lawyers to approve and then ti be voted on. Look at it and vote and learn about it then .
Ditto on the work our Shop Steward and assistant do . Much like them and their staff 1181s board has quite a few capable and reliable people that we're confident about what they were shooting for . All delivered and deserve applause . Most only seek them when chips are down and they need help .