no pay check again today...i guess 1181 did'nt straighten it out last year... wayy tto go 1181 nd as usual great communication skills...
Point of information: Did you work this week?
Larissa got paid, Hoyt got paid and Borough got paid. We work a week behind. We should have gotten paid, if we didn't work this week. There are so many contracts, who the hell knows anymore. Give back Mike, the great Negotiator. The majority of us didn't work. Just another way to hold our money.
buzz what does working this week have to do with it?
Quote from: 4real on February 21, 2015, 02:08:46 AM
buzz what does working this week have to do with it?
Nothing, really, just curious. If we got a check this week we wouldn't get a check next week. I don't see much difference between not having a check this week and not having a check next week. Just my opinion, I know others feel differently as a matter of principle.
The Main difference is for people who unfortunately live week to week will have some continuos income each week unless in the rare case that this week falls on your WAITING WEEK with unemployment. I understand the point that we're all getting our money either way but some or many could use or NEED their paycheck this week than their unemployment check next week as opposed to both next week. Again unfortunately some can't go 14 days without some sort of income. For those of you who can't get ready because I doubt if the upcoming April week will be any different.
Yes, I get that there may be people who need it now, and those for whom that is the case would have a legitimate complaint.
There's a reason this is being done, but I can't mention it here. But in the end they're asking many of us to go two weeks without income. Great Job ! Must have been some tough negotiating to get this done.
Quote from: Rock Steady on February 22, 2015, 03:46:10 AM
There's a reason this is being done, but I can't mention it here. But in the end they're asking many of us to go two weeks without income. Great Job ! Must have been some tough negotiating to get this done.
Thanks for your discretion. See you PM.
Well well well, now we all know what a nice contract we have no Feb. week for us but every other Co. gets paid for Feb. week. Maybe the next contract show your Balls and don't agree with the bullshit and say no way or we will hit the street to Mike and buddy Neil. What fools we are. The The law is 6 sick days for workers and we get none. Neil saids I will cut your pay again and again and again, What fools we are, sorry but we are. Round 2 comes Easter week.
Quote from: worker341 on February 22, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
... The The law is 6 sick days for workers and we get none...
Doesn't apply to collective bargaining agreements.
Correction Buzz, we are legally entitled to sick days. Read the law, it's available to you on the web. The law can be negotiated out of our contract. So if we don't get sick days 1181 let them go like everything else, and there is only one person to blame.
i dont think any other company has been paid for the actual week of last week... ithink they just were paid on friday 20thfor the week ending 13th,as we should have been paid....to me it has nothing to do with when we actually get paid but its the point we were due to be paid on the 20th for the week ending the 13th and not a word was said and yes it happened last year and we were told it was a payroll over sight..we gave back so much,got screwed on our medical well damn we should get what is rightfully do us....
Quote from: Rock Steady on February 23, 2015, 02:27:51 AM
Correction Buzz, we are legally entitled to sick days. Read the law, it's available to you on the web.
Correction to your correction. I
have read the law.
The law does not apply to employees covered by a valid collective bargaining agreement that was in effect on April 1, 2014 until that collective bargaining agreement ends.
For employees covered by a collective bargaining agreement that came into effect after April 1, 2014, the
law does not apply if the collective bargaining agreement expressly waives the law's provisions and the agreement provides a comparable benefit to employees,
such as paid time off. Otherwise, the law applies to these employees.
That the law can be "negotiated out of our contract"
IS the law.
Quote from: yabba on February 23, 2015, 10:14:48 AM
i dont think any other company has been paid for the actual week of last week... ithink they just were paid on friday 20thfor the week ending 13th,as we should have been paid....to me it has nothing to do with when we actually get paid but its the point we were due to be paid on the 20th for the week ending the 13th and not a word was said and yes it happened last year and we were told it was a payroll over sight..we gave back so much,got screwed on our medical well damn we should get what is rightfully do us....
Correct ... nobody that I know of actually got paid for the past week, but I agree in principle that there should have been a check issued last Friday for the previous week's work .
Exactly, just like I said. We are entitled to sick days unless they are negotiated away. When our contract ends we can get sick days, Cordiello can get rid of the "evergreen clause" and get us sick days. Like I said, the only way we don't get them is by letting them be negotiated away along with February week, Easter week, summer days, over time, etc.
Pioneer HAS the BEST contract in the industry!!!!!!!
That is ALL I keep hearing!
At this time I really don't think you can even call it an Industry anymore! Hopefully the EPP will come back and MAYBE in time all 1181 members will once again be under ONE CONTRACT. Right now unfortunately it's just a few hundred workers here & there throughout NYC each struggling separately against 15 to 20 contractors. I don't exactly consider that an Industry!!!
Quote from: Rock Steady on February 24, 2015, 02:01:09 AM
Exactly, just like I said. We are entitled to sick days unless they are negotiated away. When our contract ends we can get sick days, Cordiello can get rid of the "evergreen clause" and get us sick days. Like I said, the only way we don't get them is by letting them be negotiated away along with February week, Easter week, summer days, over time, etc.
OK, but it won't happen in our lifetimes ... no matter who's in the union.
Sad to say, once something is taken away very hard to get that back if at all.
I don't know about that. for a while we were cut down to 3 summer accrual checks for some new employees. And a few years later Sal got one back and it capped at 4. so it can be done. It's called "Tough Negotiating". I know we haven't seen that in a while.
Rock steady...I hope you are right. That was Sal and that was that era. Things have changed. The owner won't give anything back once he has it Post Sal Era.