Hmmm ... it occurs to me that it is very possible that you know this because you know who that poster is ... which would make perfect sense as he was certainly singing your song. tweet
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 25, 2016, 12:34:28 AM
Absolutely not! Everybody can determine for themselves which version of the "truth" they want to believe. I think the fact that I did not interfere with your "friend's" posts would prove that to be the case.
But, of course, if he's not posting any more I understand that you have to fill the void.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: PROUD MEMBER on January 25, 2016, 01:07:28 AM
Can't we all get along
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
Buzz I honestly don't know who wakeup123 is... That's why I use my name and have no regrets!
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 25, 2016, 02:10:01 AM
Intriguing. Then that begs the question: How would you know that another driver was going to out him?
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 02:23:22 AM
Because someone called me when they overheard the conversation from the person who knew their identity. That is the last comment on this subject for me!
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: LMR on January 25, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
So you should an accusation at Buzz saying that he skews the truth playing God then you want to end the conversation.Wow that sounds familiar I.e.(WakeUp 123).This site is fair and balanced but unfortunately some people get really upset when you don't completely agree with them.I for one would not want to see that kind of leadership in this Local
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 03:17:21 AM
Alright LMR so you are Happy with the current leadership?
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 03:35:02 AM
Hey Buzz this is how my song goes: I want union leadership that does the following: 1. Fights to Protect ALL drivers and escorts against the Company and DOE even if they are wrong as far as any infraction they may incur. 2. A union that doesn't pay the President's brother over $100,000.00 a year for well what does he do? 3. A union that doesn't pay 3 secretaries over $100,000.00 a year for administrative duties! 4. A union That keeps the rank and file updated on contract negotiations! 5. A union that negotiates 1 contract for ALL members! 6. A union that Doesn't give my hard earned money back to the contractors, so they get wealthier!!!! I Have much more but this crap gives me a headache so GOODNIGHT!
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 25, 2016, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 03:35:02 AM Hey Buzz this is how my song goes: I want union leadership that does the following: 1. Fights to Protect ALL drivers and escorts against the Company and DOE even if they are wrong as far as any infraction they may incur. 2. A union that doesn't pay the President's brother over $100,000.00 a year for well what does he do? 3. A union that doesn't pay 3 secretaries over $100,000.00 a year for administrative duties! 4. A union That keeps the rank and file updated on contract negotiations! 5. A union that negotiates 1 contract for ALL members! 6. A union that Doesn't give my hard earned money back to the contractors, so they get wealthier!!!! I Have much more but this crap gives me a headache so GOODNIGHT!
Dedicated to WakeUp123:
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: PROUD MEMBER on January 25, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
It's hard at least for me to rebut those 6 reasons although Bloomberg MAY have been the reason for ONE of them. So John it's obvious you want a change in leadership. Do you think Salerno should be that change?
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: John Eadicicco on January 25, 2016, 02:49:13 PM
Tom Salerno was a delegate under Mike Cordiello and asking around to folks who work at other companies, I have not heard any negative feedback, in his representation, even when he did the hearings at OPT. I truly don't believe that Michael Cordiello will run again for President. Vinny Butero has told a few people that he and Robin are going to run in the next election. Vinny for president. Came from good sources. I have had many a conversation with Tommy Salerno and he thinks that we need a stronger voice representing the rank and file of 1181. Thinks that we ALL should be under ONE contract. I totally support that stance on negotiations.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: LMR on January 25, 2016, 04:01:13 PM
Hey John that was one your best posts yet .Its a lot easier to listen when you're not attacking someone.Your voice is just as important as the next guy.As for your list don't see much wrong with it.When we share our concerns and grievances respectfully we can learn from as well as educate one another.And in your response to me no I am not completely pleased with our current methods of our leadership.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 25, 2016, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: LMR on January 25, 2016, 04:01:13 PM Hey John that was one your best posts yet .Its a lot easier to listen when you're not attacking someone.Your voice is just as important as the next guy.As for your list don't see much wrong with it.When we share our concerns and grievances respectfully we can learn from as well as educate one another.
Yes, exactly. Even I actually agree with some of the things John says, (and WakeUp123, for that matter), but when he doesn't agree with the someone else he turns that difference of opinion into hatred for the other person. This is counterproductive to trying to get the other person to digest the substance of what one is saying.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Just_Right on January 26, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
Hmmmm..
Just had a lengthy conversation with Vinny and Robin.Apparently neither one has any knowledge of Vinny running for President.Yes they are both on the EB but NEITHER one has released any information of Claiming to run for President.
So,the information that was stated earlier on this post is wrong.Just thought I would enlighten some with FACTS not FICTION
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 26, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
That's what I mean by which "version" of the truth one chooses to believe. :yes:
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: PROUD MEMBER on January 27, 2016, 01:46:32 AM
Just_Right You say you spoke to Vinny and that apparently neither one has any "knowledge" of Vinny running for President. I'm a little confused. Are you saying you asked Vinny if he's going to run for President? If so did he say yes, no or maybe? And in my opinion even if he did say no what else would you expect him to say until Michael officially said he would not run again? That would be like during Obama's first term Biden came out publicly and said he was going to run for President. So it could be possible that Vinny had told a few people in confidence that he is going to run.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Just_Right on January 27, 2016, 10:03:20 PM
Proud Member
This is how my phone conversation went with Vinny:
Me: Are you running for president?
Vinny: Of course not,Michael is still our president.
Me: Well ,someone said you said you were.
Vinny: I don't know who said that.But I can tell you I NEVER said that.Michael is not going anywhere.
Is that clear enough Proud Member?
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 28, 2016, 01:09:03 AM
This is how my phone conversation went with Vinny:
Me: Are you running for president?
Vinny: Of course not,Michael is still our president.
Me: Well ,someone said you said you were.
Vinny: I don't know who said that.But I can tell you I NEVER said that.Michael is not going anywhere.
I guess there is no source as good as the horse's mouth. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: LMR on January 28, 2016, 01:29:24 AM
Maybe a nice dose of truth from the horses mouth will shut the mouth of the rumor mongers.Guess we will have to wait and see!!😳
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: PROUD MEMBER on January 28, 2016, 01:46:37 AM
Just_Right If you go back and read your original post you will see where I got confused. You say "I just spoke to Vinny and apparently neither one as any knowledge of Vinny running for President." Instead of saying Vinny told me he never said he was going to run for President. Excuse me for not understanding. I guess I'm not perfect just like you English. Why the attitude? It was a simple question that by the way I had the correct answer before you clarified it in your second post. Of course Vinny whether or not he has thoughts of running is not going to say it while Michael is still President and could still possibly run for another term. I hope it is CLEAR enough for you that I'm just concerned for myself, my family, this Local which means every Member & their families as well as you and yours. I ask questions to gain knowledge not to start an argument.
Title: Re: Missing
Post by: Buzz on January 28, 2016, 03:15:05 AM
I have to admit, Just_Right, your first post was not exactly clear on who said what. Thanks for clarifying.