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DRIVERS' ROOM => Work Related => Topic started by: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 12:39:46 AM

Title: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 12:39:46 AM

Just heard from Ernie. He was informed that Pioneer (S.I.) does not yet have the runs because OPT does not have them ready. They should be ready by Tuesday, if not sooner.

Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: WigWag16 on August 29, 2020, 01:01:59 AM
Quote from: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 12:39:46 AM

Just heard from Ernie. He was informed that Pioneer (S.I.) does not yet have the runs because OPT does not have them ready. They should be ready by Tuesday, if not sooner.

Perfect, hopefully by Wednesday they call us with the runs
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: LMR on August 29, 2020, 01:02:50 AM
Good word Buzz.Thanks
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Eucerin on August 29, 2020, 12:50:28 PM
I have to ask, how many runs? Special Ed and General Ed Runs; or is this for Special Ed only? This has been the biggest question, all along for me.  There should be an educated guess, as to our outcome.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: steady on August 29, 2020, 02:06:18 PM
I'm not expecting a pick before the start of the school year whenever that may be.  I can't see how a pick would be possible unless it would be posted online (very unlikely). I'm expecting to be told to start with our existing run we had last March. We've done this several times in the past.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 03:42:16 PM
Honestly I think a pick is the least of our worries. But I doubt you will see a pick at all this year. Let's all just hope we get back to work. The BOE is not going to be tasked with creating new runs at this point. I think most if not all of us would agree we would rather work then worry about a pick.

KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED !!!!
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Eucerin on August 29, 2020, 03:56:58 PM
Not concerned with the pick either...looking to see if there is a run to do for general ed
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on August 29, 2020, 04:51:40 PM
There will be a pic if there's not enough runs for everybody, and if there is only special ed work and not enough to go around. This came up at my meeting amongst a few of the top drivers.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 05:08:21 PM
If all runs come back I doubt there will be a pick. The only scenario in which I can foresee a pick is if there is not enough work for everyone. Otherwise the obvious concerns will make a pick almost an impossibility. The way I read the letter posted from Consolidated the drivers and matrons were picking up their respective runs. It said nothing about a pick. There simply is not enough time for a pick.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on August 29, 2020, 05:19:51 PM
Correct, if all our work comes back there is no reason for a pic. We just go back on the runs we had in March. But the letter from consolidated only mentioned special ed, and that the matrons and drivers go back on the runs they had. But if We don't get all our runs back that we had in March, there will have to be a pick. We can only hope we get them all back
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on August 29, 2020, 05:25:12 PM
Listen, why don't we give it a rest for the weekend, just relax a little bit and spend some time with our families. I honestly believe Ernie and the rest of the executive board are doing everything they can to get us all back to work. There's no doubt in my mind! As soon as any information gets to them they will get it out to us.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 06:06:19 PM
Can I just ask if there are say like 100 runs for special ed and thats all we get for now. That means they use us based on our seniority? So the top 100 on the totem pole get called first. And the rest of us have to wait til more work comes in?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on August 29, 2020, 06:18:35 PM
I believe so, it will go according to seniority.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: hognol on August 29, 2020, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: OMG on August 29, 2020, 05:25:12 PM
Listen, why don't we give it a rest for the weekend, just relax a little bit and spend some time with our families. I honestly believe Ernie and the rest of the executive board are doing everything they can to get us all back to work. There's no doubt in my mind! As soon as any information gets to them they will get it out to us.
I've been spending time with my family since March 16th, that's why I'm not relaxed. :o
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: fred on August 29, 2020, 06:35:28 PM
maybe it could be done the way the summer work is done. that way a driver with 40 years on who doesn't feel save isn't forced to work. this could also help a driver who is financially in need and feels save enough to work the option
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 07:17:37 PM
I believe there will be work for everyone IF THE SCHOOLS OPEN. Fortunately for us I don't think much thought has been put into busing thus far and in a scramble to provide busing  I am not sure much will change from March. I think all runs will go out and we will service the children on the days they go to school. Again as I stated earlier with so little time left I doubt they have the ability to make any major changes to the routes. The only cog they could throw at us is if they do not provide general Ed busing. And honestly I don't believe that will happen. There is simply to much at stake. But again we need the schools to first announce a definite opening, because that still has yet to be done.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 08:19:35 PM
there is many parents reporting all public school hours are 8:30 to 2:00   both PS and IS schools...i see is75 website refelecting the new hours...if true this should be fun...
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 08:34:13 PM
Not sure how that is being put out there the powers that be still have not made a decision that September 10th is the official start day. But yes all schools going in and out at the same time should make transportation a blast.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 08:39:31 PM

Okay, guys ... straight from Ernie ... we will be getting BOTH special ed and regular ed runs back.

Thing is, they are expected to be the same as they were in March. So how we will do those runs with regard to social distancing is anybody's guess ... OPT has not advised of any plan for that ... if they even have one.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 08:47:28 PM
I think you will do your regular run and based on the children who chose remote learning and the days in which the other children are told to report to school hopefully socially distancing can be accomplished.

Can we say totally fucked up !!!! Lol
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 09:06:09 PM
Id really like to see if they if they start on the 10th! Carranza is a lying sack of shit! Deblowhard has no clue. 
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 08:39:31 PM

Okay, guys ... straight from Ernie ... we will be getting BOTH special ed and regular ed runs back.

Thing is, they are expected to be the same as they were in March. So how we will do those runs with regard to social distancing is anybody's guess ... OPT has not advised of any plan for that ... if they even have one.

great news... a pay check in our future and benefits and   a raise also,and im sure he will cut our monies owed also... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:   :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
So u think well ever get whats comimg to.us? Accruals benefits and all that?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 10:10:03 PM
Quote from: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
So u think well ever get whats comimg to.us? Accruals benefits and all that?

my feeling once we back behind the wheel we will get whats owed   and also add on our great president trump tax break holiday...basically 100.00 more a week till january... :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: yabba on August 29, 2020, 09:43:12 PM
... and   a raise also ...

We were due a raise July 1, no?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
So u think well ever get whats comimg to.us? Accruals benefits and all that?

If we go back to work, I would say it's inevitable.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 10:23:55 PM
I havent heard about the tax break taking effect?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: Buzz on August 29, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: yabba on August 29, 2020, 09:43:12 PM
... and   a raise also ...

We were due a raise July 1, no?

Yes 2.35%
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 10:31:43 PM
Quote from: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 10:23:55 PM
I havent heard about the tax break taking effect?

Yes payroll companies were notified this past week from IRS to stop deduction for FICA as of next week.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: wheresmymoney! on August 29, 2020, 10:35:36 PM
Interesting!! Didnt know that!!
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 11:20:40 PM
Just so we do not get ahead of ourselves that tax break may never reach our actual pockets. The tax break is a deferral and not a forgiveness. So in actuality at some point Pioneer would have to actually pay those taxes when they come due. Pioneer may not pay them to the IRS now but they will have to eventually. Companies can hold on to that money and never actually give it to their employees.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: yabba on August 29, 2020, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 11:20:40 PM
Just so we do not get ahead of ourselves that tax break may never reach our actual pockets. The tax break is a deferral and not a forgiveness. So in actuality at some point Pioneer would have to actually pay those taxes when they come due. Pioneer may not pay them to the IRS now but they will have to eventually. Companies can hold on to that money and never actually give it to their employees.

very intresting   i see it now on forbes...thanks for pointing this out...  if congress dont forgive us we are on the hook for all this money next year...  take it out of my check i dont want a loan....   so far it looks like these executive orders arent worth the paper they were written on..thanks  again...
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Hammer2161 on August 29, 2020, 11:33:10 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/08/28/questions-remain-after-irs-rolls-out-guidance-on-payroll-tax-deferral/amp/

Here is a link to the entire breakdown of the proposed cut.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on September 01, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
https://www.metro-magazine.com/10120349/new-york-mta-installing-driver-barriers-on-5-800-buses
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on September 01, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Quote from: OMG on September 01, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
https://www.metro-magazine.com/10120349/new-york-mta-installing-driver-barriers-on-5-800-buses

If you think that's going to happen on school buses, don't hold your breath.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on September 01, 2020, 05:53:31 PM
Shower curtain?  Something?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: OMG on September 01, 2020, 05:58:10 PM
That's what a union does for its members, can't wait to see what ours does for us. They had six months for god sake.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on September 01, 2020, 11:58:59 PM

Next Target Date for Pioneer getting runs: Thursday

Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: WigWag16 on September 02, 2020, 12:11:04 AM
Quote from: Buzz on September 01, 2020, 11:58:59 PM

Next Target Date for Pioneer getting runs: Thursday

Let's hope, and let's just hope it's more than just a piece of paper know what I mean lol
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: WigWag16 on September 02, 2020, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: Buzz on September 01, 2020, 11:58:59 PM

Next Target Date for Pioneer getting runs: Thursday

Why so confident for Thursday as a target date lol ?
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: Buzz on September 02, 2020, 12:15:38 AM
Quote from: WigWag16 on September 02, 2020, 12:13:16 AM
Why so confident for Thursday as a target date lol ?

That's what Ernie was told.
Title: Re: About OUR Runs
Post by: WigWag16 on September 02, 2020, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Buzz on September 02, 2020, 12:15:38 AM
Quote from: WigWag16 on September 02, 2020, 12:13:16 AM
Why so confident for Thursday as a target date lol ?

That's what Ernie was told.

Ok good fingers crossed