Just as with Presidents Week, we're only getting paid for the 3 days we work next week.
Also, it is not yet known if last week's pay will be available this week or next week.
He probably needs the money more than us.
I feel like some bully keeps taking my lunch money... Neil hope you and your family have a great Passover.. Cause me and my Family are having a crappy Easter, Sleep well Boss
Maybe his "open door" policy extends to his house. Why don't we bring our families to his house and wish them a happy Passover in person, we know where he lives.
I think he used our money for a new house. Its like he's playing monopoly. We keep landing on chance and have to pay him.
I think he used his money on paying for classes from Gatto on how to be a shitty Boss.. How do you do this to people who have made YOUR company one of the BEST in the industry, you did'nt do it playing solitare...Nice guy YEH RIGHT...
It's the Grinch who stole Easter. Just tell the kids the Easter Bunny got robbed on his way to the house.
Quote from: Buzz on March 26, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Just as with Presidents Week, we're only getting paid for the 3 days we work next week.
Also, it is not yet known if last week's pay will be available this week or next week.
NOOOOOO really who would've thought this...NOT ME
Faceit, I think they are slowly turning us into part time employees. What will be next? They should be more upfront so we can plan our futures.
I wanna know where our union is??? Whats going on? what are they doing about this? Are they taken them to court becouse there is a C B A isnt there? PLEASE GIVE US ANSWERS OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE, NO MORE BULLSHIT GIVE US STRAIGHT ANSWERS, ARE WE FUCKED OR NOT, COME ON CORDILLO WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??? SOME OF US LIVE PAY CHECK TO PAY CHECK!!!!!ANSWERS PLEASE
For guys who get accrual checks, he has to pro-rate it at the end of the year, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, 2012. Also, if the union is going to lose 2,000 members than we don't need that many people on the Executive Board.
Quote from: 4real on March 27, 2013, 03:32:39 PM
I wanna know where our union is??? Whats going on? what are they doing about this? Are they taken them to court becouse there is a C B A isnt there? PLEASE GIVE US ANSWERS OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE, NO MORE BULLSHIT GIVE US STRAIGHT ANSWERS, ARE WE FUCKED OR NOT, COME ON CORDILLO WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??? SOME OF US LIVE PAY CHECK TO PAY CHECK!!!!!ANSWERS PLEASE
They've gone to the NLRB and will in turn go to court. Also, Ernie and Andy are filing their own NRLB complaint on behalf of Pioneer employees. We all want quick fixes but he wheels of justice turn slowly.
I hope so Buzz cause like you I've lost to much already this year, cant afford to lose anymore..this really sucks never thought we had such a heartless boss
Quote from: Stugots on March 27, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
For guys who get accrual checks, he has to pro-rate it at the end of the year, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, 2012.
As we're finding out, what he
has to do and
actually does are not the same thing.
Quote from: Stugots on March 27, 2013, 05:10:50 PMAlso, if the union is going to lose 2,000 members than we don't need that many people on the Executive Board.
Now, THAT is a noteworthy comment!!
I believe the union is doing all it can. Who would have thought it woukd come down to this. This is beyond saving money...and CBA....its take it and shove it down our throats. The wheels of justice do turn slowly. My friend from a different garage thats union told me "I will have work at the same union rate whether his company loses there current contract or another bid lower under the new named company takes place. We already have the new stickers to put on the buses, question is which bid gets accepted. You drivers are getting shafted. We were told we werent getting raises but we wouldnt get pay cuts(mechanics)." Sounds a lot like these contractors are all on the same page. Disgusted and miserable they are. Not an attack on mechanics but they get accrual checks and no cuts ans drivers get shit. I have to ask rhetorically what the F is going on .... ?
Did your friend ever hear the saying "Divide and conquer?" Does he feel accepting the checks showed unity? Will he feel the same when he finds out he or some of his coworkers may get laid off for the summer months? Did you tell him "Beware of contractors bearing gifts?"
Maybe he thinks it is easier to replace drivers than mechanics. There has to be a reason for this. Nothing is done by chance anymore - it is all calculated!
Quote from: terminator on March 28, 2013, 06:00:14 AM
Maybe he thinks it is easier to replace drivers than mechanics. There has to be a reason for this. Nothing is done by chance anymore - it is all calculated!
Truthfully, it
is easier to replace drivers than mechanics. Very difficult to hire even a class 2 man at what they pay, let alone class 1. You see what they hire ... kids ... "helpers" ... and hopefully they become mechanics with years of on-the-job-training. Whereas within a few weeks/months anybody can become a bus driver.
Still, the word is that some companies (probably including ours) are looking to reduce their summertime shop personnel. (They feel they don't really need as many mechanics when a small percentage to zero buses are running.) Would have been in their long-term best interest to show unity, but I can understand how it would be hard to say "No thanks" to somebody waving a check in your face.
Just my opinion but I believe contractor's want to keep their mechanic's...senior driver's not so much...
How Neil's skin doesn't simply peel from his bones is beyond me. How someone can simply drop employee salaries by 20% and still be able to sleep good at night is amazing. To me he is no longer a descent human being with respect for human life, he's an animal. He's got to know that our lives are structured according to our current salaries.
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To think he's such a strong democrat, who's supposed to be "for the working man". Look up all the contributions he's made to democratic candidates over the years, it's amazing. You've got to be a certain type of person (or animal) to do something like this and still keep a clear conscience. I'm wishing for nothing but bad things to happen to him or his family, because thats what's happening to mine.
Sorry, Rock Steady, I don't like to do this. I understand and share the anger and frustration, believe me. Blasting the guy is one thing, but denigrating the family in the manner that you did is uncalled for.
seems to be all im hearing from all our brothers and sisters at pioneer Rock steady, I guess faceit had it right all along "scumbag" all about money never mind the commitment we made to better HIS company while he sat back and took all the credit on being one of the BEST in the industry.. Good luck to you Neil you must need the money more than your employees do, we only live paycheck to paycheck, and some of US are still bailing water out of our houses.. Your Father would have been proud of you....Your a Good Man :head_wall:
I agree with you 100% rock steady.fuck him
Buzz....he (mechanic friend) knows full well what hes doing. Hes also scared personally cause of what happened to the Hostess workers same premise technically different, brutal end result. He is aware as I am, you are and the rest of the people on this thread, this is our professional judgement day. Yeah I took some city tests myself, this is the current job for me that I depend and rely on , I like him have no pension from another job. I am going day to day like a brutal alchoholic (of course im dry) trying to keep my sanity over this chasm. Problem like most people is I had a budget based on this job, this torpedoed that and my titanic idea of a humble life is taking on water. Only a matter of time now before it all sinks. Thanks boss man. My daughter who is too young to inderstand this is just as confused as I am. My family is humble and strong....we work for a living and we know the meaning of money and what its like to earn a days pay. Some dont want to know....maybe there glass palace mcmansions dont have mirrors.
Did you hear that Neil ? Die you M^&%$r F#@%er . . . . .
WOW this is turning into one of Bloomys newspapers
He is pushing his own workers to the edge. Hope he has eyes behind his head.time to rise up n stand together. U scumbag.
The scumbag is messing with are livelihoods and are families. You just don't do that.
DO YOUR OWN RUNS DO NOT HELP THE OFFICE IN ANY WAY THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL HURT THIS GUY IN HIS POCKET, PAY THE SHAPES FOR FULL DAYS, LEAVE THE YARD ON YOUR REPORT TIME + 10 MIN. FOR PRE TRIP...LATE TO SCHOOLS IS A VIOLATION TO HIM, OR ITS O.T FOR YOU.... BE SMART BE PROFESSIONAL AND YOU WONT BE WRONG.... :thumbup: NAME CALLING DOES NOT HURT A GUY LIKE THIS HE'S USED TO IT BY NOW..
I still cant believe a sick out entitled him to replace us,yet he can dictate to us any terms he likes and can bypass any meaningful arbitration. something is really wrong with playing by the rules?or is it just the average joe worker takes it in the shorts? :thumbdown:
Quote from: faceit on March 29, 2013, 07:43:08 PM
...LATE TO SCHOOLS IS A VIOLATION TO HIM, OR ITS O.T FOR YOU....
You didn't read the new proclamation ... no overtime until after 40 hours! :shock:
Quote from: mirrorcheck on March 29, 2013, 10:47:50 PM
I still cant believe a sick out entitled him to replace us ...
He doesn't want you to lose your school-year, perfect attendance bonus of one day's pay. :yes:
As it turns out, we are supposedly going to get paid for the full week. (Last week.)
@ Rock Steady: Check your PMs.