So word has it over at Pioneer that Dispatcher Bob Janks has Covid and came to work
Sick !! How irresponsible and reckless is that? And wait the best part is his family members have it too!! Is this some kind of joke ? I have a lot of friends at Pioneer and plenty of them have family members with compromised health issues or they themselves have underlining health issues. I'm wondering how the owner Neil is going to handle this? Don't Drivers and matrons enter that office daily ? What about the other office workers that were not 6 feet away and now possibly infected as well? I was under the impression that it was a safety violation through the CDC anyone infected would have to report it and then be quarantined until no longer sick! Something Is not right here !!
They better have sprayed down that whole damn building including the drivers room...not for nothing but we don't know anything in the contract that contains to this or what protocol is
What about testing ? What about letting the workers know ? Have they thought to do that ?
Company should have at least send out a company email informing us a member tested positive and what they are going to do about it
lets not jump ..let see if buzz can confirm it...and if i true i wish bobby the best and his family
Quote from: yabba on September 28, 2020, 12:24:36 AM
lets not jump ..let see if buzz can confirm it...and if i true i wish bobby the best and his family
Unfortunately, it is true ... at least that he tested positive, don't know if he has symptoms.
Ok I certainly wish Bobby and his family all the best and a speedy recovery. But serious question did he come to work after being tested without results instead of self quarantine?
Ok Buzz....what does the company plan on doing with informing its employees about a positive test popping up in the company that plenty of co workers may have come in contact with especially by having all of us cram in the drivers room last Monday. They should send out an email letting us about about the test and what is going to happen/what they will do
Not sure that's a question Buzz can answer guys. I think that answer is going to have to come from 1181 or Pioneer itself.
Once they got confirmation they should have informed everyone immediately their plans for the office and co workers. Not by word of mouth
I totally agree that they should have sent out some sought of notification. They knew how to send an email notifying everyone they needed to be in work on Tuesday.
What happened to CDC protocol of contacting everyone who may have come in contact which would be every employee in Pioneer????
lets give it a little time...hopefully he just found out and lets see if they start notifying us...im sure office personal is first on the list... they are in immediate contact...
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 12:33:26 AM
Not sure that a question Buzz can answer guys. I think that answer is going to have to come from 1181 or Pioneer itself.
That' true. I have no idea what the office plans to do. This just came to light Friday afternoon, as far as I know. And wouldn't you know, I was talking to him outside earlier Friday afternoon!
I'm going to wait 4 or 5 days and go get tested. And then go again in a week because I understand it can take anywhere from 3 - 14 days to show up.
Unfortunately in a lot of ways we all come in contact with him. He handles all of our cards and was taking in the run sheets on Thursday at least when I handed in mine he was.
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 01:10:04 AM
Unfortunately in a lot of ways we all come in contact. He handles all of our cards and was taking in the run sheets on Thursday at least when I handed in mine he was.
I've been seeing Bobby Sack putting the cards in the rack. If you just handed him your run through the plexiglass slot you should be ok.
Yes Buzz you are correct. I guess we will have to wait and see how Pioneer handles this and go from there. Unfortunately it was bound to happen at some point.
I think the "right" thing to do at this point is for the company to provide on-site testing for employees which is offered by Lab Corp and Quest, possibly others.
I'm not waiting for that to happen, however. There are plenty of places to get tested.
I handed my run sheet into him one day last week when he was behind the he window, I was wearing a mask and I believe one time I was waiting by the window as he was waiting to go into the office by the door but again I had a mask on
Quote from: Buzz on September 28, 2020, 01:22:53 AM
I think the "right" thing to do at this point is for the company to provide on-site testing for employees which is offered by Lab Corp and Quest, possibly others.
I'm not waiting for that to happen, however. There are plenty of places to get tested.
See Buzz that's the issue they have kept us in the dark as to what we should do and what the company would do if someone at the company has come In contact with. Again if this was "known" Friday and it's 7:30 Sunday and not one email from pioneer then I dunno what else to think. We should have been notified to come in tomorrow and everyone get a test given it's a dispatcher touching our cards and run sheets. I just feel that we are left in the dark and this should even been told to us during our refreshers and safety courses
FYI
I don't know if it's true or not, but anybody who came in contact with Bobby is supposed to quarantine for two weeks at leas, that would shut down the entire dispatch office and personnel. Even if he has symptoms or not, he still tested positive and it could get worse for anyone who came in contact with him, every person handles the symptoms differently. Some get really bad and some get barely any at all. It was bound to happen.
Guess they are taking their sweet time to inform us....they have drivers going in to drive tomorrow.....
Where's the sheep ?
So you mean to tell me it's almost 9:00 on a Sunday night and the company didn't even have the courtesy or professionalism to reach out to the employees and direct what the whole company should do ? That's a shame !
No one cares. They're saying to us that we can overload buses, 1181 isn't saying anything against that so we're on our own
Quote from: Tyme on September 28, 2020, 02:51:43 AM
So you mean to tell me it's almost 9:00 on a Sunday night and the company didn't even have the courtesy or professionalism to reach out to the employees and direct what the whole company should do ? That's a shame !
ESPECIALLY with drivers going in tomorrow for Catholic school runs
You know, the difference between the UFT and 1181, is that the UFT gets income from Union dues if the teachers are in the classroom or not, when they're in the classroom or teaching virtually they still have Union dues coming in. 1181 on the other hand only has union dues coming in if we are working, which seems to me that's why they're very silent on making sure we are completely safe. We should have right now dead set rules on how many kids we are allowed to have on the bus in the morning, and how many should be stepping foot on the bus in the afternoon, right now they are dead silent! We are in the dark. Bobby Janks came down positive, and SCHOOL isn't even in session. Wait till kids are on the bus, it's going to explode! I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I want to go to work, I need to go to work. But I would feel so much better if we had an answer and rules that were written in stone.
yet we all have to line up next to each other in the yard to pick up one pair of gloves sounds like nothing more than breaking balls and showing that no one gives a fuck about your or your families health very pissed off
OMG I totally agree. At the end of the day they can't keep us in the dark with company policy if there even is one. We should have been told what we are to do and what the company would do during our refreshers and safety courses. We are finding this out through word of mouth nothing official from the company. We should already know what we are to do and what they are doing especially you have drivers going in tomorrow to do runs. Has the office/drivers room been sprayed down? An email should have been sent to us this weekend confirming the news, and for every employee to come in Monday to get tested.....but radio silence on all fronts.
I've been saying all along sadly it's going to get to the point where you just have to worry about yourself and use common sense with prayer and hope.
I'm sure everyone in the dispatch office was notified and told what the plan is.....
Anything from the union? Some of us are working tomorrow.
With that being said, if a driver or matron stands up for themselves and says over the radio that they are full and cannot longer take any more students because they are at 10, don't call them fucking assholes of pussies, call them heroes. If somebody should get called in on a hearing or be fired, walk out with them don't stab them in the back. We all want to work and get paid to do our jobs, but we want to do it safely. If it should get out on the media that we are loaded with way more than the CDC asked for, I don't think Pioneer stands a chance on winning the case or the Board of Education. I think they'd be pretty embarrassed on how they let things get out of hand.
Thank you Tyme for notifying us know about Jenks! We all appreciate you coming on here and telling us what's happening.
Now, what the FUCK!!! This is the most irresponsible thing I have ever heard in this company! I like to know just when he knew that he was in contact with someone that has Covid! If it was early in the week then he should have Not have came to work. He then would have had no regard for All the other office workers and everybody else at Pioneer! Damn him! The possibility that he infected the office and they or him infected some drivers or matrons. Then we then spread it to the children on our buses and they bring it into the class and then bring it home etc.. What the FUCK!!! Damn HIM! I for one don't ever want to see him or even hear his voice on the radio. Even after this is all over with. I have NO respect for him anymore! The CDC guidelines are if you knowing are in contact with someone that has Covid, you MUST quarantine yourself!
Pioneer is no better either! This is just how irresponsible this company is. Not to notify its employees. This comes from the top down! Damn them too!!!
I really don't know what to say. I will say I hope Janks is OK. As far as WTF ur feeling and words are ur opinion, I respect them but then according to you and CDC rules then everyone in the office now should also quarantine for 14 days because (unlike the majority of us) all were in close proximity of Janks. So if they all come in on Monday or Tuesday then should we also say DAMN them? And if they all don't come in then we're all out of work for 14 days. Unfortunately it's a complicated situation. Only thing I can say as far as work goes if someone doesn't feel safe then stay home. I doubt if you can get fired.
👍 about damn time.
Quote from: PROUD MEMBER on September 28, 2020, 04:50:14 AM
I really don't know what to say. I will say I hope Janks is OK. As far as WTF ur feeling and words are ur opinion, I respect them but then according to you and CDC rules then everyone in the office now should also quarantine for 14 days because (unlike the majority of us) all were in close proximity of Janks. So if they all come in on Monday or Tuesday then should we also say DAMN them? And if they all don't come in then we're all out of work for 14 days. Unfortunately it's a complicated situation. Only thing I can say as far as work goes if someone doesn't feel safe then stay home. I doubt if you can get fired.
PROUD MEMBER - I also respect your opinion, but it's really Not my opinion! It's the CDC and NY State Guidelines! Everybody wants to hear what we should do if this happens or that happens. Well here are the RULES by the U.S. Government (CDC) and NYS Health Department! You Must quarantine yourself if you knowing in continue contact with someone with Covid. If the office gets tested and it comes back negative from Covid, then there's no quarantine. They all should get tested before they return back to Pioneer. You and I can always recover financially but we can never replace a family member or children who we might get infected by us. I for one could not put money in my pocket (paycheck) knowing that I possibly could be spreading this horrible virus for financial gain. As of this past Saturday's virus update by Gov. Cuomo "NYS for the first time in 3 months NYS had an increase of over 1000 new cases in a signal day". Everybody is in this together, we All must follow the RULES to end this horrible virus!!! That means You and me if need be!
WTF ... Well said
Furthermore none of us know the exact circumstances with Janks. I saw him this week and he appeared fine to me. Just because he has the virus doesn't mean he knew it and came into work anyway. Maybe he felt a little sick earlier in the week and went and got tested as a precautionary measure and was notified on Friday while at work that he tested positive and then left.
Pioneer should require everyone now to be tested
I heard that everyone in the office was sent to be tested and before we start with the what about us and that Pioneer doesn't care about us let's be realistic if anyone was in close proximity to Bobby it was the office staff and not us. For the few of us that may have been close to him I would suggest to go get tested. As I said earlier this is a very touchy situation and I don't mean to be naive about it. Obviously the first thing is the safety and health of EVERYONE and then we have to consider our livelihoods and future. I wish the best to everyone at Pioneer. That includes all Brothers & Sisters, the entire Office Staff including Neil and obviously Janks!!!
ProudMember...regardless we should have all been notified Saturday-Sunday someone in the company tested positive and what they are expected to do and want us to do. For example that entire office and drivers room should be disinfected with the machine spray. Put us at ease that they are on top of it doing something. Again non of us know what the protocol is, why are we left in the dark.
Quote from: wheresmymoney! on September 28, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
Pioneer should require everyone now to be tested
They should have contacted everyone last night saying to report to the yard to get a test
1181 looking out for its members again 👍🏻. I am amazed at the lack of communication... SMFH
We shouldn't assume things. Obviously I didn't see it being done but
I was told that the office and driver's room was disinfected.
Well I was there this morning for work and it seemed like business as usual. People can say they do a lot of things including disinfecting the offices and drivers room. But the truth is we are being told nothing on a larger scale not from Pioneer or 1181. If we weren't all here whispering amongst ourselves we wouldn't know a damn thing about Bobby testing positive. There is no notification of said fact anywhere at Pioneer.
I know we all want and need to work but are we truly going to just stand by and allow them to have basically no regard for our safety ????
Proud member what's to ASSUME? Did you get notified of a potential contact with a Covid case? And I heard Bob's son was home with Covid so Bobby knew he had come in contact it...
Again.....I'll say it once again....WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONTACTED! I've seen emails from teacher friends of mine if someone tests positive they get an email of what the protocol is as to what the school is doing as well as what the employees should do. In Fact other companies do this as well. Like it was stated if we weren't passing word around we wouldn't know. They should have emailed us stating an employee has tested positive. We believe he could have come in contact with a few drivers so to avoid any confusion we want to have everyone come in Monday for a COVID test as well that we will be disinfecting the dispatch office as well as the drivers room to put us at ease. That's how it should have been handled, not word of mouth from the drivers.
This IS definitely a union issue. Why? Because one aspect of their job is the safety of all their members. We realize that Pioneer owner and mgt. does not care as much as they should. They just want us to go out and drive. Once the union found out either Andy or Ernie should have come on here (the only way we know about things) and told us. But what do we hear.....crickets. I'm not asking the union to solve the problem but they realize we're left in the dark, just communicate more with us. If it wasn't for this site on many issues we'd be lost.
Union :thumbdown:
Pioneer :thumbdown:
NYS Dept. of Health guidance on COVID-19 in the workplace. Rather confusing to me, but here it is ...
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2020/06/doh_covid19_publicprivateemployeereturntowork_053120.pdf
When I say assume I’m talking about the office and drivers room not getting disinfected.
I'll say it again......company should have sent an email over the weekend informing us. I don't care what the guidelines say, they as a company and a union have an obligation to inform us by official notification
And last I checked they haven't even told us about an official protocol of what the company has......
According to the link Buzz posted we all can continue to go to work including the office staff as long as they follow the guidelines in the link.
Didn't we give the company our e- mail address and they were suppose to sent a link to an app that would notify us if anyone in the company
came done with COVID ... just wondering.
Quote from: WigWag on September 28, 2020, 05:13:54 PM
Didn't we give the company our e- mail address and they were suppose to sent a link to an app that would notify us if anyone in the company
came done with COVID ... just wondering.
Yeah, that's true ... forgot about that. I believe it stated that is was specifically for COVID notifications.
This is hilarious, why is it drivers feel the need to defend Pioneer's lack of safety precautions when it comes to their drivers and matrons. When will the drivers learn to stick together because as long as it stays this way we will continue to not matter where Pioneer is concerned.
If everything stated in this thread is true concerning Bobby and knowing that his son had tested positive prior to coming in on Friday. Simply stated he didn't care about infecting anyone one of us at that point. I know many on here are friends with Bobby and I myself consider us friendly. But he had a responsibility and he failed to act on it. That is unfortunately a fact. Another fact is that neither Pioneer nor 1181 felt the need to inform any of its personnel outside of the office staff. As Buzz stated he was talking to Bobby outside of the office on Friday afternoon. I would bet dollar to doughnuts he isn't the only driver or matron to come in close proximity to Bobby. And then what about all the people they came in contact with. It's a domino effect people plain and simple.
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 05:22:01 PM
If everything stated in this thread is true concerning Bobby and knowing that his son had tested positive prior to coming in on Friday.
It apparently is not true and he didn't know. Read my separate post.
You know what they say about assuming ...
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 05:22:01 PM
This is hilarious, why is it drivers feel the need to defend Pioneer's lack of safety precautions when it comes to their drivers and matrons. When will the drivers learn to stick together because as long as it stays this way we will continue to not matter where Pioneer is concerned.
If everything stated in this thread is true concerning Bobby and knowing that his son had tested positive prior to coming in on Friday. Simply stated he didn't care about infecting anyone one of us at that point. I know many on here are friends with Bobby and I myself consider us friendly. But he had a responsibility and he failed to act on it. That is unfortunately a fact. Another fact is that neither Pioneer nor 1181 felt the need to inform any of its personnel outside of the office staff. As Buzz stated he was talking to Bobby outside of the office on Friday afternoon. I would bet dollar to doughnuts he isn't the only driver or matron to come in close proximity to Bobby. And then what about all the people they came in contact with. It's a domino effect people plain and simple.
excellent post... we need unity but we will never see it
I did not assume anything, I believe I stated that if everything they said was true. I never said it was.
In all due respect I doubt any of us wish any ill will on anyone concerning this damn virus but we need better communication from Pioneer and 1181. Hell if you go to a restaurant you need to leave a name and contact phone number just in case. Unfortunately we are in the dark as far as Pioneer goes and that is sad I'm so many ways.
From what I've been told this page and Facebook is not an official communication way of information being posted. It must come from an email, phone call or text FROM the company, not workers. I wish Bobby well BUT that doesn't excuse them from not informing us over the weekend if he was allowed to be at work or not. He tested positive they should have emailed us what their plans were
Quote from: yabba on September 28, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 05:22:01 PM
This is hilarious, why is it drivers feel the need to defend Pioneer's lack of safety precautions when it comes to their drivers and matrons. When will the drivers learn to stick together because as long as it stays this way we will continue to not matter where Pioneer is concerned.
If everything stated in this thread is true concerning Bobby and knowing that his son had tested positive prior to coming in on Friday. Simply stated he didn't care about infecting anyone one of us at that point. I know many on here are friends with Bobby and I myself consider us friendly. But he had a responsibility and he failed to act on it. That is unfortunately a fact. Another fact is that neither Pioneer nor 1181 felt the need to inform any of its personnel outside of the office staff. As Buzz stated he was talking to Bobby outside of the office on Friday afternoon. I would bet dollar to doughnuts he isn't the only driver or matron to come in close proximity to Bobby. And then what about all the people they came in contact with. It's a domino effect people plain and simple.
excellent post... we need unity but we will never see it
Unfortunately that should start with our union . That's why you'll never see it
Hammer
I wasn't talking to you I was talking to someone who assumed that the office and the drivers room wasn't disinfected
Quote from: Buzz on September 28, 2020, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Hammer2161 on September 28, 2020, 05:22:01 PM
If everything stated in this thread is true concerning Bobby and knowing that his son had tested positive prior to coming in on Friday.
It apparently is not true and he didn't know. Read my separate post.
You know what they say about assuming ...
What's not true ?
Quote from: Tyme on September 28, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
What's not true ?
That he knew before he came in to work Friday, according to what he told me.
according to what he told me. tough to make that stand up in court but anything works at 2890 :thumbdown:
Quote from: GMC JOE on September 30, 2020, 10:03:58 PM
according to what he told me. tough to make that stand up in court but anything works at 2890 :thumbdown: