Well, at least unemployment is up ... . https://nypost.com/2025/10/20/us-news/nyc-school-bus-firms-plan-to-fire-workers-end-service-to-150k-students-in-contract-dispute/

Well, with a greedy owner and an unqualified union, we don't stand a chance

So what, we have to see if we're gonna have a job in November?

Keep your powder dry, gang. We've been here before. It's all posturing.

Well, I just got the email. 

Quote from: Manwithabus on Today at 12:12:59 AMWell, I just got the email. 

Same here....sooooo does this mean October 31st we are laid off? I'm so confused

Quote from: faceit on October 20, 2025, 04:54:31 PMWell, with a greedy owner and an unqualified union, we don't stand a chance

Actually, according to the article, it's the  Panel for Education Policy (PEP) that won't approve the agreement that the owners reached with the city.

"But members of PEP won't ratify the new five-year deal, claiming it lacks adequate employee protections, and prefer to extend the existing contract on a monthly basis, according to the draft notice being sent to the state and obtained by The Post"

Does the PEP have the balls to call the coalition's bluff???

Quote from: WhatBusToday on Today at 12:16:25 AMSame here....sooooo does this mean October 31st we are laid off? I'm so confused

Of course it's a possibility, but not a likelihood, in my humble opinion.

Quote from: Buzz on Today at 12:18:31 AM

Quote from: WhatBusToday on Today at 12:16:25 AMSame here....sooooo does this mean October 31st we are laid off? I'm so confused

Of course it's a possibility, but not a likelihood, in my humble opinion.

Someone I know in a different company just told me this

" This is what someone just told me "Yeah ok, use your brain the story was leaked so pep will sign off, like our contract negotiations were leaked, It's only pep they are waiting on , the city and the bus companies agreed on a contract
This is between the city and the bus companies threatening, mayor Adams says there is a deal on the table pep has to sign off
The companies want a 5 year contract, pep wants to extend 30 days at a time"

Quote from: WhatBusToday on Today at 12:20:41 AMSomeone I know in a different company just told me this

" This is what someone just told me "Yeah ok, use your brain the story was leaked so pep will sign off, like our contract negotiations were leaked, It's only pep they are waiting on , the city and the bus companies agreed on a contract
This is between the city and the bus companies threatening, mayor Adams says there is a deal on the table pep has to sign off
The companies want a 5 year contract, pep wants to extend 30 days at a time"

Exactly. The Post didn't just happen upon this information. It was intentional to tighten the screws on the PEP.

Now let's see who blinks first.

Quote from: Buzz on Today at 12:28:54 AM

Quote from: WhatBusToday on Today at 12:20:41 AMSomeone I know in a different company just told me this

" This is what someone just told me "Yeah ok, use your brain the story was leaked so pep will sign off, like our contract negotiations were leaked, It's only pep they are waiting on , the city and the bus companies agreed on a contract
This is between the city and the bus companies threatening, mayor Adams says there is a deal on the table pep has to sign off
The companies want a 5 year contract, pep wants to extend 30 days at a time"

Exactly. The Post didn't just happen upon this information. It was intentional to tighten the screws on the PEP.

Now let's see who blinks first.

I mean this would suck but as long as we are allowed to collect UI through our current books while that happened all is fine but fingers crossed the 31st happens, we are still in good shape

Quote from: WhatBusToday on Today at 12:39:21 AMI mean this would suck but as long as we are allowed to collect UI through our current books while that happened all is fine but fingers crossed the 31st happens, we are still in good shape

You can collect UI from day 1 in the event of a "layoff" (which is how the letter from the company described it). Of course if you have to open a new claim the usual waiting week would apply.

Fingers crossed it's all a scare tactic and we are good after the 31st

One big concern is will we still get health benefits? And if so, for how long???

Another big question
If this does happen does it mean as of November 1st that Pioneer and the other companies are closing their doors. Because if not aren't we guaranteed full pay each week for 39 weeks per year until June of 2028?
Just because the owners lost their contracts with the DOE that doesn't nullify their contract with the Union. I mean I'm not a Labor Attorney but it seems logical to me or at least I hope so.