Quote from: GMC JOE on March 24, 2013, 01:39:06 AM

Quote from: Buzz on March 24, 2013, 12:51:42 AM
I think it's more than just the money for many of us, too. To be sure, especially to those of us who don't have city pensions, losing one-fifth of our annual income will be devastating.   

We must stand together, your quote can divide . It really did not belong here , sorry  . It should have read                          To be sure losing one-fifth of our annual income will be devasting.   Now that is UNITY !

Sorry ... certainly didn't intend for my words to be divisive in any way. As you can see, I amended my post to read "... especially to those of us who don't have other sources of income."

That it is especially devastating to some more than others is simply an arithmetical matter of fact. Please don't attach any other meaning to it.

I think it's more than just the money for many of us, too. To be sure, especially to those of us who don't have other sources of income, losing one-fifth of our annual income will be devastating. But beside that, many have told me how downright hurt and dejected they feel that we would be treated with such callous disregard and abandon. Some, including myself, are fighting not to succumb to depression. It's exacerbated by knowing that the company's contract with the DOE will not change for over 2 years.

In one letter issued on Pioneer letterhead during the strike it said, "My concern is not for any other company's 1181 workers, it is for you, the employees I've known, worked with, and many that I have built friendships with."

Do those words ring rather hollow now?

"Please come back and work with us to remain the best company in the business."

Although we got paid for our work, just like  "any other company's 1181 workers," they did not strive and succeed to make their company THE BEST in the business. WE did that ... not the union, or the company, but the 95% of us who take pride in what we do and want it to show. I guess that dedication means nothing in the face of increased profit ... albeit solely at our expense. That certainly deflates one's morale.

In the past I've been called "ass kisser" for trying to be open-minded enough to see things from the company's perspective. I have previously made it clear to Neil that that is never my intention. That I say what I truly feel and believe and that it comes from the heart.





It is from the same heart that I submit the foregoing.

Thanks to the driver who passed this link along from the NLRB site ... http://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/employerunion-rights-obligations


Note especially ...

"It is an unfair labor practice for either party to refuse to bargain collectively with the other, but parties are not compelled to reach agreement or make concessions."

and ...

"The parties' obligations do not end when the contract expires. They must bargain in good faith for a successor contract, or for the termination of the agreement, while terms of the expired contract continue."

And last but not least ...

"Conduct away from the bargaining table may also be relevant. For instance if an Employer were to make a unilateral change in the terms and conditions of employees employment without bargaining, that would be an indication of bad faith."



Somebody's got some 'splaining to do.

In the past I've said it's all about the money, but I think there's even more to it. In their own little pond, they can experience Bloomy's power on a smaller scale. There must be a sense of euphoria that comes from being able to crush little people ... and doing it just because they can. 

Before the strike I was told the contractors were looking to get back 1 day for each week of accrual and vacation pay a person got. We come back to work after weeks of written and verbal pleas to return to work, they know we shot our load, smell blood and go for the kill.

We're "like family" alright.

Hope they're ready for more of these kinds of employees. If that's what they want to hire, that is surely what they'll get.

Just spoke to Ernie ... he said to be there at 4:30 ... will still be there by 5 if you get in late, he'll fill you in.

Disregard the above ... it was erroneous information.

Although the 2013-14 calendar (link below) shows Mid-Winter Recess as being Feb. 17 - 21, a teacher I know says they were informed recently that schools will only be closed that Monday and Tuesday, courtesy of Emperor Bloomberg.

Teachers are also working without a contract and this could change with a new administration and/or contract.

http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/D45BBFC5-BB4E-4C6B-ACE7-F7E15D8AA1BE/0/20132014SchoolYearCalendarFinalDraft3613.pdf

Because numerous drivers have requested it, all drivers and matrons who do not have a trip on Thursday are to return after the morning run. Ernie was asked, and will be there, to address our concerns. I will assume you know the nature of this meeting and, as most of you have done with the previous post on this subject, and due to the sensitivity thereof, please refrain from making comments or asking questions here.

(I apologize to those of you whose posts I deleted on the other thread about accrual checks and trust my explanation in the PM I sent most of you was satisfactory.)

Quote from: topgun on March 17, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Can't you sleep Buzz, You were up at 4:24

Just used to getting up that early for work, but on the weekends I go back to sleep for a while.

Quote from: bug on March 17, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
http://atu1181.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/annual-cert-2012.pdf            This link will show you where it says you can't work in the industry.

Never knew ... thanks.

(Guess you'd have to work outside of NYC.)

Quote from: Eucerin on March 17, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
are you able now to collect a penison and work after age 70 from 1181?? ....."up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension"

No, not any more. I believe Artie Beaty (sp?) was the last one.

I believe Moose is correct ... as long as it's not an 1181 company. (Actually, up until a few years ago, after age 70 you could continue working for the 1181 company you were at and collect your pension.)